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John Carr 07-29-2018 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by jDSTJD (Post 2644814)
I'm sorry but this is awful. Yes it is true that these recent news stories about black passengers acting rediculous on flights, and the fact that the stories keep happening it seems one after another, does not make "us" (black people/African Americans, whichever you want to pick) look good, this doesn't mean that there are only black people acting loony on flights and having to have flight crews take remedial action. The conflicts involving non-black crazies just don't appear to be as newsworthy because of the sensationalism race related incidents. So it gives the impression that it's just "blacks acting self righteously indignant after being called out for it". I cringe when I see this stuff because it looks bad but the condescending way you posted this is, in my opinion, beneath the intelligence and professional stature that I admire(d) you all for.

You can broaden that out. Take a look at the people that go “live”, post a tweet/FB interaction with a LEO and how it was completely about race and most traumatic/stressful event they’ve ever been through. All the typical people get involved, saying what an injustice it was and how the poor person feared for their life over a simple traffic stop.

And then the local PD releases the badge/dash cam video and it’s NOTHING out of the ordinary. This poor person that racially profiled was in fear for their life and throught they were gonna get shot by a white/racist cop turns out to be nothing, NOTHING.

Then before you know it, the social media “outrage” from the experts gets pulled, etc.

It’s not about driving or flying “while black”, it’s about driving/flying while being a dumb a$$ that’s spring loaded to play the race card and NOT accept any responsibility for ones actions.

It’s NOT about race. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.


Originally Posted by EMBFlyer (Post 2644831)
We're all missing one thing. If she'd have had Captain George, callsign Hollywood, this never would have happened. In all her travels, he would be EXACTLY the Captain that she has been looking for.

Captainnnn Georrrrrrrrg-ah.

jDSTJD 07-29-2018 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 2644836)
This was made about race, the title of the article was saying that she was thrown off because she was "flying while black" has nothing to do with that. This is happening more and more these days. People are using their race to turn this around on others.

Yes I get what you're saying but it was Tamar's sister who put the incident in the context of race and the article took on that spin. My point is that regardless of the spin put on it by a third party, it's up to others who should know better to draw the distinction between media sensationalism and reality...or at least be more objective. Is it you all's reality after flying for multiple years, some even decades, that only black people act indignant and beligerant to the extent that they must be thrown off planes? If not, why buy into this crap? I just found it offensive and disappointing that the person I quoted took that particular attitude.

CrispyBacon 07-29-2018 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by jDSTJD (Post 2644850)
Yes I get what you're saying but it was Tamar's sister who put the incident in the context of race and the article took on that spin. My point is that regardless of the spin put on it by a third party, it's up to others who should know better to draw the distinction between media sensationalism and reality...or at least be more objective. Is it you all's reality after flying for multiple years, some even decades, that only black people act indignant and beligerant to the extent that they must be thrown off planes? If not, why buy into this crap? I just found it offensive and disappointing that the person I quoted took that particular attitude.

Sounds to me like your just a black apologist. This "story" was made racial from the beginning. I didn't do that. And I am sick of blacks making "offensive and disappointing" quotes, news stories and titles and then sitting on a high horse. These women and the news staff are the racists here. plain and simple.

rickair7777 07-29-2018 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by IwasInverted (Post 2644694)
I agree, don’t leave the cockpit, but assuming the passenger was not obeying the fa instructions I have no problem with what he said or how he said it. Definitely nothing racist in that video.

In the old days, yes. Pax gets where she's going and maybe learned a lesson about how to behave in a manner conducive to the smooth functioning of society. Problem solved, BTDT.

rickair7777 07-29-2018 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by hilltopflyer (Post 2644697)
I wouldn’t go back there just cause of this I’d juat kick her off the plane. It’s very simple. Tell your ground security person you aren’t flying the plane with her on board since she clearly isn’t listening to the FAs

Today, this is the right answer. Pax learns a lesson but unfortunately doesn't get where she's going. Maybe next time.

That said, CA dude may have been senior enough to not give a rip (ie able to retire to his satisfaction later this week if necessary)..

IwasInverted 07-29-2018 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Floobs (Post 2644743)
And then you'll end up on YouTube.

It's 2018, in this climate there is no reason for any pilot ever to leave his seat to deal with a passenger on the ground. It's not our job, it's not our responsibility and we certainly aren't trained to. There are however people whom are and they should be the ones that deal with these things.

I know reading is hard but I said not to leave the cockpit, I was referring to the article bring up race and I didn’t get that at all from anything in the video.

Slaphappy 07-29-2018 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by jDSTJD (Post 2644850)
Yes I get what you're saying but it was Tamar's sister who put the incident in the context of race and the article took on that spin. My point is that regardless of the spin put on it by a third party, it's up to others who should know better to draw the distinction between media sensationalism and reality...or at least be more objective. Is it you all's reality after flying for multiple years, some even decades, that only black people act indignant and beligerant to the extent that they must be thrown off planes? If not, why buy into this crap? I just found it offensive and disappointing that the person I quoted took that particular attitude.

As of late it seems that black people are portrayed as victims in the media regardless if they are or not more than in a negative light in this situations.

Just look at the random killing of the woman in the bart station in oakland, the guy that killed her was some strung out drug addict and habitual felon who for no other reason decided he wanted to kill and happened to pick her as a target. Yet the media presents it as an attack on black america by a typical trump supporting white man and there is zero indication of that, in fact the evidence we've seen shows us he's just a random criminal.

Flytolive 07-29-2018 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 2644871)
As of late it seems that black people are portrayed as victims in the media regardless if they are or not more than in a negative light in this situations.

Really? Can you give us some other examples?

Glenntilton 07-29-2018 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by Flytolive (Post 2644874)
Really? Can you give us some other examples?

Did you read the rest of his post?

Flytolive 07-29-2018 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by Glenntilton (Post 2644875)
Did you read the rest of his post?

Yes, I did.


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