Good point.

And I wouldn’t be surprised if some writers were paid by her (or her publicist) to put this stuff out there.

Who cares?!?

9 full pages of drama...couldn't get past the first few.

Slow news day I suppose. Moving on...

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Thanks for the constructive feedback. While many of us are pretty tired of some issues getting hyper-inflated and politicized (with an overt statement or implication that it's somehow my fault or I owe someone), most normal folks do understand there are issues and are willing to hear about it and discuss it. I personally don't want anyone to feel out of place in our society just because of their heritage or race.

"Black apologist"

WTF

Bingfuc7inggo!!!!!

And that’s a good point. I think the majority of us in the middle of the political spectrum (I.e. not the left or right fringe) would gladly leave the fringes aside and have a constructive conversation. Debate and meeting at a common ground is imperative to a successful democratic republic. Unfortunately, constructive conversation has been trampled over by absolutists of the left and right. We also only have a very short context of the total event in this case...obviously there are three or more sides to this story.

Makes me wish we had more than two big political parties. I’m right leaning but the extremes of each party (last presidential election) are screwing this country

Hmmmmm watched the video. Honestly, despite what is in the “manuals” I agree that it is best to stay in the flight deck. Talk about being between a rock and a hard place.

I suspect the CA will come out A-Okay, if to the media he comes out as 110% homosexual male. Yup, grindr certified, 2 toe painted, red white and blue (yellow, green, pink, etc), gay.

In the minority wars, it will move him from target to untouchable. Not saying this is right, but in today’s irrational environment of politics, its a sure fire way to escape the boiling waters :D

And there would be no possible way to refute his assertion either! Married, three kids, two grandkids, deacon in the church? None of that matters as long he feels just a little gay, or at least questioning...

There was a story a week ago about a law in Canada that says a trans-gendered must be treated as the gender they claim regardless of plumbing.
Well a twenty-something male told his car insurance company he was identifying as female to save almost $1400 every 6 months on his/her car insurance.
Insurance company balked and now we have a full fledged gender court case.

That's the slippery slope with LGBTQ affirmative action... anyone can claim status and it's really hard to disprove!

Well I know what we will be telling insurance when my son turns 16. Even if he dresses like a boy and likes girls what can they say if you tell them he identifies as a girl

First off, saving $2800/year...what kind of car are they insuring?!?! Secondly, it's a sad day if it's not thrown out...

It's the daily mail, but more information.

Tamar Braxton was 'ridiculed for flying while black' by Delta | Daily Mail Online

Hahaha!

That might work!

Love it!

Why?

Are trying to say that the obvious double standard is legit?

No one should be charged different rates for gender anyhow.

Auto insurance companies are total crooks-and most of the crap they pull is stuff mafia folk got sent to prison for. Screw those bastards!!

Easy there Archie! Just sit back in your recliner and change the channel.

Snipe if you want, but fair is fair.

And from a legal point of view, this is a better mousetrap.

I’d love to see some insurance companies try and argue this one.

They are gonna get their asses handed to them. This idea is the perfect way to stick it to the man!

I’d totally do this if I were younger and the rates were so much different. Makes up to about age 25 play something lime 3x as much as females in that age group.

I never had a wreck back then, but ended up paying through the nose-because of my plumbing.

I see. So, if you detest the unscrupulous standards of the insurance industry, apply some of those same detested standards for your own personal gain also as you see fit. Its fair for you to use them, just not others you do not like. Fair is fair, right? :confused:

My post was more about how they're using the, "well, I now identify as a girl," angle.

FWIW, I agree that insurance companies can be a pain sometimes. However, the few times I've used it, it was well worth my premiums. That said, I'm guessing their rates are based on historical data. If a certain group/demographic as a whole have a greater rate of accidents/claims, then I can see why they require higher premiums.

But lets play out your scenario. Say the insurance companies do lose...do you think the everyones premiums will drop or will they be raised to compensate?

Not at all.

Auto insurers have been getting away with murder for decades. The idea of charging males more than females is crazy. It’s theft.

The most dangerous thing on the roads today is a teen girl with a cell phone. That kind of person shouldn’t be getting a huge discount.

Plus, there are some people who self-identify as a member of the opposite sex because they genuinely believe they are. The diagnostic manual psychiatrists use had deleted that from the list of problems and disorders.

So what leg do these insurance thieves have left to stand on?

I think auto insurers are being exposed for the crooks they are-and I love that!!

**** those thieves, and kudos to anyone who beats them at their own game!!

Probably true, although the frenzied soccer mom who's doing mascara, texting and drinking a quintuple frapacino while steering with her knee is probably a close second.

In my day it was the teenage boys. But now they don't even really care about the DL, to say nothing of hot-rodding a car.... had to cut mine off from rides to school and activities to get him to finish the thing, over year after he was eligible. I was standing at the DMV door at 0800 on my 16th birthday.

I read something about that years ago. True, becuase of historical/trend data, males have higher accident, claim, tickets, what have you.

What the data/statistic FAILS to take into account is, when people are together in a vehicle, who usually drives? The male....

Sure, we can all point to our own past and the stupid stuff we did behind the wheel. But I think we ALSO have enough awareness to grasp that stupidly behind the wheel knows NO GENDER.

Doesn’t matter how they indentify :eek:

That’s my point.

Things have changed, and the insurance companies are still getting away with punishing people who aren’t responsible.

The way it should work is this:

Everyone should start with a flat rate. If a person remains safe, that rate should remain the same. If they get a bunch of tickets or get into a bunch of wrecks, jack up that individual’s rates! Make them so high that they have to take an Uber. Get their stupid ass off the road.

I know of a few teen guys who did dumbass stuff blazing down the road real fast in a mustang daddy was dumb enough to give them, or in a 65k jacked diesel truck.

I also know of teen girls who keep texting after their 12th wreck.

Idiots are idiots. Gender shouldn’t matter. There’s no shortage of damned fools on the road, and it’s not right for safe drivers to subsidize their stupid asses. Make it expensive for the idiots. So expensive that after the first couple of screw ups, they can’t afford to drive.

I was a very careful driver. Still am. Never had a wreck or ticket as a teen, but I was still paying insane rates to cover the idiots who kept screwing up-and of course, the shareholders of these crooked insurance companies.

Auto insurance isn’t about coverage individual risks. It’s about maximizing profits-for the ins companies and the scumbag lawyers who game our tort system

13-15, up and down the driveway, up and down the driveway.

One reason for high rates is that many drivers just don’t buy insurance at all. Few assets, a junk car....so go ahead and sue!
Arrests do happen, but judges don’t want to jail scofflaws and leave a family with no income. :rolleyes:

https://www.naic.org/cipr_topics/top..._motorists.htm

Should definitely work that way if it could, but I imagine many of them wouldn't use the uber if their insurance rates got too high. It would just raise the number of uninsured motorists (causing the good drivers' premiums to increase). There comes a point of diminishing return on the premiums to charge people, but there's also probably some benefit in getting the irresponsible people caught driving uninsured so they can have their driving privileges suspended, revoked... amping up their penalties until they get jailed, their car impounded, etc to truly get them off the road.

It's funny watching people arguing about insurance and making broad claims like "theft" etc, when they have ZERO knowledge or education about statistics, the insurance business, how actuarial tables work, and the legal precedents that permit the idea of open market insurance to exist in the first place.

The whole concept behind insurance is based on completely "pure" mathematical calculations about risk and probability of a claim. The criteria used to determine those risk factors have been used for decades because they are the most fair way to spread risk among insured groups of people without unfairly punishing people who are not in the higher risk categories.

If you don't like that, then come up with a better way and try to convince someone (anyone) to willingly buy into it. But that won't happen, because insurance doesn't work that way. Insurance rates for any particular person is based on a cold mathematical calculation of how likely an aggregate group of "people like you" are likely to have a claim, plain and simple. It really isn't any more complicated than that.

If you don't like that, then pile up some cash and self-insure or get enough people to join you to purchase your own group policy, (which will still be charged premiums based on the characteristics of the people in your group). If you can't self insure, then of course you buy insurance because that's what insurance is for (duh). If you are forced to buy insurance because the govt says you do, then that's what elections are for.

Whining about insurance "theft" and claiming that it's unfair for any particular group to get charged higher premiums than another group is simply showing ignorance about how insurance actually works. I know that making fools of ourselves is kind of a sport in here, but this is pretty blatant even for pilots who know everything :)

Depends on whether it's a publicly held company.

My insurance company is a co-op. So they don't have shareholders. Most are much more interested in maximizing shareholder returns than anything else.

I know exactly how insurance really works.

It works by the companies looking at the damage after a major hurricane and seeing only slabs left where their insureds' homes were.

And then those companies denying payouts because they said homes were washed away, rather than blown.

They are crooked bastards. I hope you never have to file a major claim, but if you do, I sure hope you are treated better than practically everyone I know who has had to.

So true. We had a beach house (rental) and the home insurance was saying it was water and the flood insurance was saying it was wind dmg. Took forever to get it resolved.

The fact that they would pull something like that after a major disaster just Chaps my ass!

Ins companies are in the business of screwing policy holders. Less payout equals more profit-and shareholder hunger for dividends and returns is endless.

I hope I never have to file a major claim.

Why would the insurance companies undercharge such a dangerous person, and on what statistics are you basing this claim?

Link to the statistics on which you are making this claim?

Where have you been? Just write something and hit enter and you're a factually backed up expert.

I’m guessing this is Bill C-16?

I enjoy watching Jordan Peterson’s take on it.

Canadian Dollars.....:cool:

Just have him do it the way Cartman did so he could use the much nicer girls bathroom, add a bow to his hair:


https://youtu.be/urwnrnHexmM

Agreed.

There is a difference between a captain and a pilot.

Gup