Flensr is spot on educating the uneducated here. Did a better job than I would have, so I say "Thank you."

Jcountry, you have neglected to include facts within your emotional statements. As such, those statements can't hold water. Or wind... ;)

That post rubbed me the wrong way too. I am as conservative as anyone, but the post in question paints all with a broad brush and was very demeaning. Sure there are some bad apples but I've seen very few people of any race behave with a manner of entitlement based on skin color...

So gender fluid people are fraud?!?

How intolerant of you!

Xenophobic bastard!!

These liberal parents are now seeing the results of their votes.


Students and parents demand a rule change after trans teen wins the girl's state championship

They should abolish all gender specific teams and competitions and let everyone compete equally regardless of actual or perceived gender. I don't understand how anyone can tolerate the implied gender discrimination of segregated sports in this day and age.

You get beat up a lot as a kid and want to compete against smaller women so you can win sometimes, right? :)

Kidding kidding, plus I can't really tell if you were serious or not. If not, well played :)

i actually think i would probably go watch high school sports for entertainment if they just let anyone compete regardless of gender. imagine football or hockey games. People would get destroyed, would a pretty sweet ticket. Actually, boxing might be the new most entertaining sport. I mean we all watch sports to watch someone win and someone lose, right? It'd be really clear who the winners and losers are now...

Not serious, just pointing out the hypocrisy. A previous administration opened all military jobs to all genders. OK, fine with that actually, anyone who can qualify is welcome I think we've all come that far. But then the folks in DC naturally started inquiring as to how soon and how many would be on the Navy's seal teams. Some quick research was done, and estimates were very, very low based on known statistical athletic performance.... and that assumed that ALL the top female athletes in the US joined the navy and then applied for the training (keeping in mind that there are national/world/olympic class male athletes, plus a few ex-NFL in that organization). So not liking that answer, the folks in DC next asked the NSWC to look at and consider eliminating long-established physical standards which would be problematic for women... I kid you not. At least they didn't order to them to change the standards (yet). :eek:

If everybody is so physically equal, why do we need title IX ?

PC Disclaimer: I don't think women are in any way less capable in most endeavors, including aviation. As an experienced instructor, women on average multi-task better.

How would being washed away be any different than being blown away?

Because many policies cover wind damage and not rising water.

Those guys are 100% crooks. They are just very politically powerful crooks.

Two different policies.

Yes flood insurance is under-written separately, at least for every house I've ever owned. Some sort of government program.

If you have assets, consult with a professional financial planner. In addition to long-term investment/retirement, they help with things like insurance. With competent advise you can get the right policies for your needs, with no loopholes.

A pilot with a lot of assets picking out his own insurance is about the same as a pilot picking stocks for retirement investment... probably amateur hour.

I didn't see a sarcasm smilie, so I guess you're trying to be serious.

Sooo, jcountry, you aimed low and missed wide. Gender-fluid identifying persons are mentioned nowhere in my post, nor in the quoted post of flensr.

Where is your rage; the actuarial tables, insurance corporations, or societal gender politics?

As to your last attempt at insult, my parents were married. 😉

You are missing the point entirely.

The insurance company couldn’t prove whether the house was blown or washed away. They just chose to fight it out in court-with several thousand policyholders.

Correct, as we MSY residents are well aware. FEMA subsidizes the program, or else nobody could afford the premiums. :(

Why Doesn?t Homeowners Insurance Cover Floods?

Government-subsidized flood insurance is another market-distorting debacle that needs to eventually go away.

And yes, I feel the same way about mortgage interest.

That makes sense, thanks!

I started reading this thread and then jumped to the last couple of pages. All I can say is WOW talk about thread creep.....:eek:

I hope you realize he was talking to her condescendingly because he was avoiding the obvious next step of kicking her off the flight.

You stated you'd have a problem with a CA talking to your wife like that, would you have had a problem with him if he didn't go back there at all and just kicked her off from the flight deck.

No one here is acknowledging the stress of him careing that she be allowed to continue. Everyone here is just saying stay up front and eject her at the first sign of trouble.

Captain has angry white man syndrome written all over his face, which lacks any understanding expression and tone completely missing the slightest hint of customer service courtesy.

He is speaking to her as if she is a child, a prisoner in a jail, or a troop under his command.

I think there is an intersectionality of racism, sexism and patriarchy here he wouldn't talk to a grown man that way of any race. And yes the passengers are getting more entitled these days with smartphones and ******* fake service animals. I have a good dozen years Captain time (Commuter and Majors)I wouldn't engage with them anymore unless they are already beating somebody up in the cabin.

You only feel that way because you are right.

People need to at least call it by the appropriate name-fascism.

I’ve totally spoken that way to and older white male who was disrespecting a young flight attendant. Didn’t think twice about it. And he sat down and didn’t say another word the rest of the flight and didn’t go running to Facebook because he knew he was wrong. Race has nothing to do with the captains response. It may have something to do with the passengers response.

“Angry white man syndrome”, that’s awesome. Nothing racial/gender biased about that.

Can we we come up with a clever title/moniker like “acting like an entitled non socially adjusted while being not white nor male syndrome” for people as well?

Thaaaat beeee greaaaaaaat.......

Hey! Now you’re being a racist. Don’t you know that racism only works in one direction?!

AND sexist!!!

She sounds like she's fully embraced the oppression delusion and victim complex.

Wait a minute, here. By the tone of many of the posts in this thread, I assumed that what the captain did was over the line and obnoxious. It wasn't. I viewed the video after reading the comments, as my computer wasn't working quite right.

I don't think he was self righteous at all. This is an incomplete video. You have no idea of what the passenger was doing beforehand to even get this started. It looked like the captain came out and quickly did his best to deal with the situation and get out of there. Mistake, probably, in this day and age of taping only the things that are favorable to oneself, but if you can't see what he was responding to, you don't know the context.

If necessary, I can see myself talking to anyone like that....man, woman, child, any race. But it would have to be pretty extreme. Glad I fly freight and nobody tapes anything, because if they do, they're off the jumpseat!

This is so simple.

Just don’t get involved.

Going back and trying to talk sense to crazy will not result in any good outcome, ever.

Just stay out of it-and do only your job.

WOW! Who do you think you are to judge someone by their skin color and sex? Crawl back under your your rock.

Have you been around many AA women?
I've witnessed plenty treat each other with the MOST disrespect.
I only wish that's how I've seen many talk to their children. Let's have "the" conversion, many AA women scold their children much worse in public before snatching them around by one arm.
I've heard, "I'am bout to act my color" more times than anyone should have too.
Have you ever been to a dollar store in the south? Do you just type this garabage from your gated community?

Found the racist...

Please don't do that. I am an African American woman and while there are some who act the way you've described, there are plenty who are totally not like that. How does your post and it's characterization of black women have anything to do with his post or this thread? Did you just have a spur of the moment urge to throw your stereotypical comment out there because you think that someone gave you the opportunity? I can't believe that out of all of the varieties of afr. Amer. Women out there that you would choose that characterization to make your point (whatever it is)? I happen to disagree with his post but it's hard to be critical of his when you follow it up with this b.s.

Yes. +1

It is sadly ironic that someone who is irritated about a post stereotyping people refutes it by a post stereotyping other people.:confused:

I’m guessing cause the post he quoted talking about the over inflated ego centric amgry white captain was talking to an angry black lady. And they did make a movie about that, so the issue should be with Tyler perry. But I agree with your point. I think race should just not be even said it makes no difference in a situation

I thought he was talking about the women at American Airlines. Ha

Are you saying that my issue should be with Tyler Perry? (Not being sarcastic, just want to make sure I understand your statement). If so, don't get me started on my opinion on Tyler Perry. Had I been able to tell him how rediculous I thought his making that movie would be before he made it, or how rediculous the movie was once he made it, I would have, not that he would have cared less about my opinion. I take the same issue with that stupid movie and I take with the post. It grossly mischaracterizes (what I believe to be) most black women. And then others of us have to go out there and fight to break down the stereotypes that people like him create. And on top of that, the movie had nothing to do with black women in particular. Any woman would have been angry/hurt/humiliated, etc. by what her husband did to her. Anyway, whole lot of digression going on in here. Getting back to the original article and the comments here about whether Tamar was angry or beligerant or otherwise deserved to be treated like that by the captain, unless I missed it, there isn't any footage that shows what she said or did before he started chastising her. The only thing we heard her say on the video was try to interject to explain herself which was very calm and it sounded like she was kind of in shock. The only other thing you heard was her friend sitting next to her saying that she thought they should get off the plane. So I don't see anger to justify the characterization of an angry black lady and I don't see the captain being overtly or subtly racial in his statements. I would have been embarrassed and ticked off had I been the one he was talking to but that would be true if anyone had spoken to me like that. Point is that I don't think anyone here can say definitively that Tamar deserved that treatment or that the Captain had racial motivations behind the way he talked to her. No one knows. Athe original post, I thought, was focused on whether the captain should have come out of the cockpit to deal with the situation at all. There have been great, insightful opinions offered throughout the thread on that, but the ones that brought race into it we're unfounded and unnecessary. The fact the the article talked about Tamar's sister's accusations about it being a racial issue was irrelevant to the original poster's thread.

Well I'am glad to explain myself, I never stated most act that way. I did state what I have personally observed living in the South.
If you truly believe it is untrue than you haven't spent much time in the South around AA women regardless if you happen to be one.
The post I responded to was immediately accusing the CA of being an "angry White man", as if this condition has been seen before and is detectable by himself, or the "victim" in the video.
No one knows why he chose the words he used or the tone he presented.
So, to state is was because he was any "angry white man", is just an opinion.
I countered his opinion with the fact that AA women do speak disrespectfully to each other on a regular enough basis to debunk his opinion of "angry white man syndrome" because clearly that syndrome doesn't apply to them.
The narrative that a white man speaking disrespectfully to a non-white is only due to their inherent racism is false, and it is false because non-whites can and do speak to non-whites disrespectfully.

The poster may have some ground to stand on if this CA were at Macdonald's treating an employee like this way about his mishandled order that had too many pickles on it.

But no, a CA driving a 100k lb tube 160mph down a runway with 40k lb of flammable jet fuel in the wings, and some costumer decides they do not need to follow the rules, I'am sorry frustration is plausible other than white man racism.
It was completely absurd to suggest it's because he's rasist, without knowing what the rest of his day was like.
This job is mostly easy, but we've all had difficult days regarding, Mel's, weather, release, ATC. He is an airline Captain and should not have been bothered with her behavior, he also could have have said everything he said with a smile on his face.
Jumping to race is a terribale reflection of this country, of the accusers and the racist.

I just realized AA women meant African American women.

I thought you guys were saying American Airlines women.

I was so confused.

More Plane Coffee!

jDSTJD,

I do apologize for my earlier post and characterization. I responded incorrectly to a post I took offense too.
I do believe a senecio could exist where the CA was in the wrong and the lady was in the right, and that still does not make his motivations race related. I do think, white men, can be wrong and speak out of turn, and still not be a racist.
The original post I believe was about CA behavior until the other poster made it about white man behavior.