End of year salary survey
12-28-2018, 07:06 AM
#121
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 360
Originally Posted by ParrotBay031
PM me i'd be glad to send you a snap shot of my final pay stub that come's on the 8th of Jan to prove it. Oh and yeah I VDA. Before you say anything else I even did one month where I did a single trip for straight pay.... you mad? Bet you think i'm a Juicer, and i'm helping the operation.... only thing i'm helping is my bank account by being smart. And let's use our heads here just for a second. Before PTO sell back went away you needed 100+ to sell back. I am year 1. It takes 10 months with no sick calls to get to 100 hrs of PTO, so no I didn't sell back anything.
Damn son! Someone is crazy defensive! You can put the gloves down, I wasn't here to attack, just very VERY surprised that a year 1 guy could make 100k here.
If you were doing RSA/VDA/Helping out during the labor dispute, well, that's between you, the union and your fellow pilots. Not something that I can praise or ever support. However if you are doing VDA post CBA then I applaud you for being able to make that kind of money.
I put in for VDA all the time but my luck just happens to be that every time there is an IROP, I'm already stuck at work, so I've never had the opportunity to pickup a VDA.
12-28-2018, 07:53 AM
#122
Swimmin' in da pool
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 444
Originally Posted by Idontevenfly
Mesa FO
9.5 month first year 2.5 month 2nd year
just over $69k gross
that's with the $22.5k bonus plus a couple 300% days and 1 month of training pay (76 hour min guarantee)
average 14 days off per month
9.5 month first year 2.5 month 2nd year
just over $69k gross
that's with the $22.5k bonus plus a couple 300% days and 1 month of training pay (76 hour min guarantee)
average 14 days off per month
Seriously, good to see a livable starting wage for the folks starting out.
12-28-2018, 08:05 AM
#124
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2018
Posts: 196
Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Can we stick to limiting this thread to data and take the discussions to another?
12-28-2018, 08:42 AM
#125
Line Holder
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Posts: 43
Originally Posted by AYLflyer
Damn son! Someone is crazy defensive! You can put the gloves down, I wasn't here to attack, just very VERY surprised that a year 1 guy could make 100k here.
If you were doing RSA/VDA/Helping out during the labor dispute, well, that's between you, the union and your fellow pilots. Not something that I can praise or ever support. However if you are doing VDA post CBA then I applaud you for being able to make that kind of money.
I put in for VDA all the time but my luck just happens to be that every time there is an IROP, I'm already stuck at work, so I've never had the opportunity to pickup a VDA.
If you were doing RSA/VDA/Helping out during the labor dispute, well, that's between you, the union and your fellow pilots. Not something that I can praise or ever support. However if you are doing VDA post CBA then I applaud you for being able to make that kind of money.
I put in for VDA all the time but my luck just happens to be that every time there is an IROP, I'm already stuck at work, so I've never had the opportunity to pickup a VDA.
My QOL has never been better, this is the best job i've ever had and I have had the least amount of stress i've ever had in my life coming off of working for a regional, and charter companies for 8 years. IT IS NO WHERE NEAR PERFECT, BUT IT'S 10X BETTER THEN A REGIONAL OR A 135 24/7 CHARTER OPERATION.
So yes I made 100k year 1, (including my December figures, contrary to what people have done in the past but i'm viewing it as a rolling 12 months) I also did a VDA or 2 a month while we were in negotiations.
Why you might ask? Because I took a 60k pay cut coming from being a corporate captain and I needed to pay the bills for my family. But at the bottom of the seniority list i'm not the one releasing the break and using the tiller.... so until the captains stop picking up VDA/RSA (which never happened) during the labor dispute then I needed to do what I did pay my bills. Hey if they want to pay me double what idiot would ever say no to that? "The Non Juicers I guess that b*tch and moan about not making a high enough rate, but bite off their nose to spite their face when the company offers to pay them double for a trip"
When you live in base, bid a min schedule and get 5-6 VDA calls a month it's pretty easy to make a nice figure with our new CBA (which for those of you reading this are wondering isn't perfect but it's pretty fu*cking good for a 18 year old airline that had 0 chance to get Delta rates.) I make a ton of soft pay and 90% of the time double my credit to my block pay.
12-28-2018, 09:20 AM
#126
Layover Master
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Seated
Posts: 4,311
Originally Posted by ParrotBay031
It's not about being defensive I apologize if it came off that way... but you as well as a lot of our colleagues would question my numbers, which deters people from coming here. I mean for christ sakes there are actually pilots among us on the jetblue seniority list that are telling people to stay at their regional over coming to work at jetblue. Like was said before this isn't a D*ck measuring contest. You can see by the number of times i've posted i'm mostly a reader. However I felt that I needed to share, and I want pilots that are thinking about coming to jetblue to know what is possible.
My QOL has never been better, this is the best job i've ever had and I have had the least amount of stress i've ever had in my life coming off of working for a regional, and charter companies for 8 years. IT IS NO WHERE NEAR PERFECT, BUT IT'S 10X BETTER THEN A REGIONAL OR A 135 24/7 CHARTER OPERATION.
So yes I made 100k year 1, (including my December figures, contrary to what people have done in the past but i'm viewing it as a rolling 12 months) I also did a VDA or 2 a month while we were in negotiations.
Why you might ask? Because I took a 60k pay cut coming from being a corporate captain and I needed to pay the bills for my family. But at the bottom of the seniority list i'm not the one releasing the break and using the tiller.... so until the captains stop picking up VDA/RSA (which never happened) during the labor dispute then I needed to do what I did pay my bills. Hey if they want to pay me double what idiot would ever say no to that? "The Non Juicers I guess that b*tch and moan about not making a high enough rate, but bite off their nose to spite their face when the company offers to pay them double for a trip"
When you live in base, bid a min schedule and get 5-6 VDA calls a month it's pretty easy to make a nice figure with our new CBA (which for those of you reading this are wondering isn't perfect but it's pretty fu*cking good for a 18 year old airline that had 0 chance to get Delta rates.) I make a ton of soft pay and 90% of the time double my credit to my block pay.
My QOL has never been better, this is the best job i've ever had and I have had the least amount of stress i've ever had in my life coming off of working for a regional, and charter companies for 8 years. IT IS NO WHERE NEAR PERFECT, BUT IT'S 10X BETTER THEN A REGIONAL OR A 135 24/7 CHARTER OPERATION.
So yes I made 100k year 1, (including my December figures, contrary to what people have done in the past but i'm viewing it as a rolling 12 months) I also did a VDA or 2 a month while we were in negotiations.
Why you might ask? Because I took a 60k pay cut coming from being a corporate captain and I needed to pay the bills for my family. But at the bottom of the seniority list i'm not the one releasing the break and using the tiller.... so until the captains stop picking up VDA/RSA (which never happened) during the labor dispute then I needed to do what I did pay my bills. Hey if they want to pay me double what idiot would ever say no to that? "The Non Juicers I guess that b*tch and moan about not making a high enough rate, but bite off their nose to spite their face when the company offers to pay them double for a trip"
When you live in base, bid a min schedule and get 5-6 VDA calls a month it's pretty easy to make a nice figure with our new CBA (which for those of you reading this are wondering isn't perfect but it's pretty fu*cking good for a 18 year old airline that had 0 chance to get Delta rates.) I make a ton of soft pay and 90% of the time double my credit to my block pay.
People have legitimate reasons for offering their opinion to not come to JB. Let it go.
12-28-2018, 09:45 AM
#127
Banned
Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,222
Half year as WB FO, half year as NB Captain (in year 6/7 pay band)
roughly $250K (pay and profit sharing)
15% DC equaled $37.5K
So measurable total compensation around $287.5K
Block hours in the 650 range. DH pay was roughly $16K but never had to DH by bidding trips that started in the city I lived in. (As WB senior FO)
As WB FO averaged 17 days off/month... 2 day trips with 2pm starts and done at noon the next day...IE:home every day
As junior NB Captain averaging 16 days off and able to be home every night doing out and backs.
No premium trips or extra flying. Senior guys gobble those up for double time.
Expecting to transition to larger NB a/c this year, expecting 2019 (year 7/8)base pay to be in the $280k range as a junior reserve/line holder.
Wish we had more scheduling flexibility or premium opportunities. Saving grace is transition opportunities for WB Cpt pay is much quicker than other airlines at the moment.
roughly $250K (pay and profit sharing)
15% DC equaled $37.5K
So measurable total compensation around $287.5K
Block hours in the 650 range. DH pay was roughly $16K but never had to DH by bidding trips that started in the city I lived in. (As WB senior FO)
As WB FO averaged 17 days off/month... 2 day trips with 2pm starts and done at noon the next day...IE:home every day
As junior NB Captain averaging 16 days off and able to be home every night doing out and backs.
No premium trips or extra flying. Senior guys gobble those up for double time.
Expecting to transition to larger NB a/c this year, expecting 2019 (year 7/8)base pay to be in the $280k range as a junior reserve/line holder.
Wish we had more scheduling flexibility or premium opportunities. Saving grace is transition opportunities for WB Cpt pay is much quicker than other airlines at the moment.
12-28-2018, 09:56 AM
#128
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 751
Originally Posted by kingairfun
Half year as WB FO, half year as NB Captain (in year 6/7 pay band)
roughly $250K (pay and profit sharing)
15% DC equaled $37.5K
So measurable total compensation around $287.5K
Block hours in the 650 range. DH pay was roughly $16K but never had to DH by bidding trips that started in the city I lived in. (As WB senior FO)
As WB FO averaged 17 days off/month... 2 day trips with 2pm starts and done at noon the next day...IE:home every day
As junior NB Captain averaging 16 days off and able to be home every night doing out and backs.
No premium trips or extra flying. Senior guys gobble those up for double time.
Expecting to transition to larger NB a/c this year, expecting 2019 (year 7/8)base pay to be in the $280k range as a junior reserve/line holder.
Wish we had more scheduling flexibility or premium opportunities. Saving grace is transition opportunities for WB Cpt pay is much quicker than other airlines at the moment.
roughly $250K (pay and profit sharing)
15% DC equaled $37.5K
So measurable total compensation around $287.5K
Block hours in the 650 range. DH pay was roughly $16K but never had to DH by bidding trips that started in the city I lived in. (As WB senior FO)
As WB FO averaged 17 days off/month... 2 day trips with 2pm starts and done at noon the next day...IE:home every day
As junior NB Captain averaging 16 days off and able to be home every night doing out and backs.
No premium trips or extra flying. Senior guys gobble those up for double time.
Expecting to transition to larger NB a/c this year, expecting 2019 (year 7/8)base pay to be in the $280k range as a junior reserve/line holder.
Wish we had more scheduling flexibility or premium opportunities. Saving grace is transition opportunities for WB Cpt pay is much quicker than other airlines at the moment.
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