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Old 05-05-2021 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
Delta lost 30x more money than Spirit.

Maybe they have a point. And job security
And you're a Frontier pilot, so you're proving my point.
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Old 05-05-2021 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
Delta lost 30x more money than Spirit.

Maybe they have a point. And job security
and somehow I never missed a paycheck ...
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Old 05-05-2021 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Hossharris
and somehow I never missed a paycheck ...
Yep and now UAL, DAL, and soon AA will be hiring again.

It's strange how defensive the Spirit and Frontier guys get when this topic comes up. No one is saying that you can't have a worthwhile career at one of the ULCC's.
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Old 05-05-2021 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Hossharris
and somehow I never missed a paycheck ...
Right. Thanks to the the Gov't handing out utterly massive amounts of money. You better hope they are as generous next time something bad happens. Without the Gov't stepping in, half of the pilots would have been furloughed
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Old 05-05-2021 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by reandld
And you're a Frontier pilot, so you're proving my point.
So therefore my math is wrong?

Maybe, just maybe, the LCC business model is more resilient. It's not personal.
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Old 05-05-2021 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
Right. Thanks to the the Gov't handing out utterly massive amounts of money. You better hope they are as generous next time something bad happens. Without the Gov't stepping in, half of the pilots would have been furloughed
"Too Big to Fail" is a thing apparently.
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Old 05-05-2021 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
So therefore my math is wrong?

Maybe, just maybe, the LCC business model is more resilient. It's not personal.
Yes, resilient to a pandemic that had governments close their borders and businesses forced to close indefinitely. How could any airline survive when people are basically forced to stay inside their homes?

I just don't get why the LCC guys take it personally. Don't try and act like it's not. None of the legacy guys are saying you guys can't have a great career at Sprit or Frontier! What's annoying is the subtle jabs you guys give about how there are "dark times ahead but the ULCC's were built for these times"
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Old 05-05-2021 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
"Too Big to Fail" is a thing apparently.
Yeah, apparently. At least this time it was.

This thread is about helping people make a career choice. I feel like it's worth noting how much better the ULCCs fared. The Gov't bailed out the airlines this time, but there's no guarantee they will next time. Just something to consider for people making career choices.

Also, I feel like making the point again that to those who fear the Gov't is going to somehow put the airlines out of business for environmental reasons, you got to see and appreciate that the same govt provided multiple massive bailouts to the airlines.
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Old 05-05-2021 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by reandld

I just don't get why the LCC guys take it personally. Don't try and act like it's not. None of the legacy guys are saying you guys can't have a great career at Sprit or Frontier! What's annoying is the subtle jabs you guys give about how there are "dark times ahead but the ULCC's were built for these times"
This thread is basically about career advice.

Someone at a corporate gig or a regional should consider all options not just United or Delta.

If you are safely established on the seniority list at UAL/DAL that's great. But this thread is about making a choice if you aren't already there. It shouldn't just be a choice between United and Delta when there are ULCCs out there that are more resilient business models. The only problem with a career at one of them is you get looked down on by guys like you! (Just kidding)
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Old 05-05-2021 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
This thread is basically about career advice.

Someone at a corporate gig or a regional should consider all options not just United or Delta.

If you are safely established on the seniority list at UAL/DAL that's great. But this thread is about making a choice if you aren't already there. It shouldn't just be a choice between United and Delta when there are ULCCs out there that are more resilient business models. The only problem with a career at one of them is you get looked down on by guys like you! (Just kidding)
title of thread is “Delta OR United”... don’t read into what career advice the OP is asking about.
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