American or Southwest?
11-21-2021, 04:00 AM
#111
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I noticed one of my LinkedIn contacts just left AA after 9 years for FedEx. Now he didn’t leave for southwest and I’d agree FedEx is a far better choice if starting at AA but to give up 9 years seniority and as far as I know he lived in base so it’s got to be pretty bad at AA. I see very few scenarios where giving up nine years seniority makes sense aside from truly believing you’re on a sinking ship.
11-21-2021, 04:19 AM
#112
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Mmmmm. Upgrade on the guppy in 10 years (with no other equipment choices) or upgrade in two years at AA or go widebody FO. The insane wave of retirements there IS your furlough protection and rapid seniority advancement.
Seriously, I can’t believe you’d even deliberate this. AA culture sucks. SWA culture has declined and continues to do so. The B737 cockpit sucks and will really wear on your nerves after a decade or two. Even if you stay narrowbody at AA, you have the comfy Fifi cockpit to look forward to.
Seriously, I can’t believe you’d even deliberate this. AA culture sucks. SWA culture has declined and continues to do so. The B737 cockpit sucks and will really wear on your nerves after a decade or two. Even if you stay narrowbody at AA, you have the comfy Fifi cockpit to look forward to.
11-21-2021, 04:25 AM
#113
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Originally Posted by dualinput
I noticed one of my LinkedIn contacts just left AA after 9 years for FedEx. Now he didn’t leave for southwest and I’d agree FedEx is a far better choice if starting at AA but to give up 9 years seniority and as far as I know he lived in base so it’s got to be pretty bad at AA. I see very few scenarios where giving up nine years seniority makes sense aside from truly believing you’re on a sinking ship.
11-21-2021, 04:28 AM
#114
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Originally Posted by El Peso
You must see the irony in this statement. AA was the ONLY major to furlough during this pandemic.
11-21-2021, 04:30 AM
#115
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Originally Posted by TorqueWrench
I’m trying to figure out what someone like that would have to gain by leaving. I really don’t see it makes sense especially if living in base. He could already be an AA captain with a decent schedule, so what’s motivating him? Toxic culture or fear of bankruptcy maybe? Sounds to me he may not be fully thinking it through
11-21-2021, 04:33 AM
#116
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
My thoughts exactly. I think or say it on a weekly basis….”I should’ve pursued FedEx and/or UPS” but to leave AA after nine years and when the retirement wave is just starting?! Wtf over….
After hearing all of it he finally gets convinced that making this move will finally make him happy. Until he leaves and realizes he didn’t have it as bad as everyone convinced him it was.
11-21-2021, 04:35 AM
#117
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Originally Posted by TorqueWrench
He’s probably flying with lots of people like you who talk about the negatives and how “this place will be shutting its doors soon”.
After hearing all of it he finally gets convinced that making this move will finally make him happy. Until he leaves and realizes he didn’t have it as bad as everyone convinced him it was.
After hearing all of it he finally gets convinced that making this move will finally make him happy. Until he leaves and realizes he didn’t have it as bad as everyone convinced him it was.
11-21-2021, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ZeroTT
Possible he was just tired of pax
hard to imagine a reasonable, objective reason to leave AA after 9 years for any other 121 job
hard to imagine a reasonable, objective reason to leave AA after 9 years for any other 121 job
It’s a whole different story if you’re already at captain and have been flying people for decade or longer. Pilots like to joke about boxes don’t complain, but someone with as many years at AA really can’t use that line.
But we all have our wants and needs. Perhaps in his eyes he would be happier. I wouldn’t be surprised if people were getting in his head as well as seeing all the doomsday news about AA and its meltdowns.
11-21-2021, 06:35 AM
#120
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Bahahaha. That’s rich. You think you actually know what I’m like at work. Okay, okay, okay…..carry on.
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