American, UPS, or Spirit
09-24-2019, 03:23 PM
#61
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Originally Posted by FTv3
There’s inherent risk in any job that involves piloting aircraft. We can predict the weather better than we can predict which airlines are going to survive and which will fail. We suck at predicting the weather...choosing an airline shouldn’t be based on a wild guess of who might be the last man standing. The OP wanted to know basic questions about Brown - we’ve put so much info out on the UPS threads: pay, schedules, vacation, benefits, retirement, contract summaries, etc., that anyone who has spent even a little time researching over there should have a pretty good idea of what the gig is like.
I’d still jump in a heartbeat if offered knowing full well it’s better than my current regional gig. But the details of UPS has been harder for me to grasp than the rest.
09-24-2019, 03:25 PM
#62
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
Yeeaaahhhh, about that... I’ve spent some time over there. And FedEx. And AA. And United. And others. For whatever reason, Brown remains more a mystery to me than the others.
I’d still jump in a heartbeat if offered knowing full well it’s better than my current regional gig. But the details of UPS has been harder for me to grasp than the rest.
I’d still jump in a heartbeat if offered knowing full well it’s better than my current regional gig. But the details of UPS has been harder for me to grasp than the rest.
If you just don’t get something, and genuinely still have questions...just ask.
09-24-2019, 03:56 PM
#63
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Originally Posted by Aviatormar
Does anyone here vote for him to stay at spirit? I mean we act like there isn’t a recession looming (when or how large is impossible to tell) but isn’t spirit in a pretty solid place if that happens?
Honest question, not looking to flame but trying to gain context- what happened in the ‘08-10 time period with regards to UPS/FedEx? Did they grow? Stagnate?
Honest question, not looking to flame but trying to gain context- what happened in the ‘08-10 time period with regards to UPS/FedEx? Did they grow? Stagnate?
Pretty sure they stagnated not only bc of the recession but you also have to factor in age 65.
09-24-2019, 05:54 PM
#64
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Originally Posted by Aviatormar
Does anyone here vote for him to stay at spirit? I mean we act like there isn’t a recession looming (when or how large is impossible to tell) but isn’t spirit in a pretty solid place if that happens?
Honest question, not looking to flame but trying to gain context- what happened in the ‘08-10 time period with regards to UPS/FedEx? Did they grow? Stagnate?
Honest question, not looking to flame but trying to gain context- what happened in the ‘08-10 time period with regards to UPS/FedEx? Did they grow? Stagnate?
The difference between now and 08 is the retirements, unless they raise the retirement age guys are leaving.
Spirit on the other hand has a super young pilot group and I believe the OP said he had 23 years left so I would bet he wouldn’t retire in the top 500 there.
09-25-2019, 09:52 AM
#66
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Similar situation for me. Currently at SWA, but holding recent CJO’s from AA and Delta. Caveat is that I live near Sacramento. Keep driving 2-4 hours to OAK (in Bay Area traffic) or take the relatively easy commute to LAX? I’m 43 years old with a military pension. Is the answer always Delta?
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09-25-2019, 10:14 AM
#67
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Originally Posted by Bizkit
Similar situation for me. Currently at SWA, but holding recent CJO’s from AA and Delta. Caveat is that I live near Sacramento. Keep driving 2-4 hours to OAK (in Bay Area traffic) or take the relatively easy commute to LAX? I’m 43 years old with a military pension. Is the answer always Delta?
09-25-2019, 12:38 PM
#68
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Originally Posted by Silver02ex
I “don’t not” do it on purpose. You know how the autocorrect can be. 
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfz0tDQZhqs
09-25-2019, 12:46 PM
#69
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Originally Posted by Bizkit
Similar situation for me. Currently at SWA, but holding recent CJO’s from AA and Delta. Caveat is that I live near Sacramento. Keep driving 2-4 hours to OAK (in Bay Area traffic) or take the relatively easy commute to LAX? I’m 43 years old with a military pension. Is the answer always Delta?
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