Southwest pilot pay
10-12-2005 | 10:32 AM
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Southwest pilot pay
I think that calling Southwest a low cost carrier is a misnomer. At least WRT what they pay their pilots.
12 yr. 737 captain:
SWA $190 per hour
Delta $173
Cont. $163
Amer. $158
5 yr. 737 first officer:
SWA $114
Delta $105
Cont. $91
Amer. $93
Those are some Legacy straight pay pilot costs
12 yr. 737 captain:
SWA $190 per hour
Delta $173
Cont. $163
Amer. $158
5 yr. 737 first officer:
SWA $114
Delta $105
Cont. $91
Amer. $93
Those are some Legacy straight pay pilot costs
10-12-2005 | 10:58 AM
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Good point, although the term "low cost" doesn't have to mean low "labor cost" as you've pointed out. SWA is successful because their managment has kept their total operating cost below their operating revenue and can bring their product to the marketplace cheaper than other airlines.
They do face significant challenges in hedging fuel into the future, although with the track record I wouldn't worry too much.
They do face significant challenges in hedging fuel into the future, although with the track record I wouldn't worry too much.
10-13-2005 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by HalinTexas
Can any SWA pilot quote me the scope clause to their contract?
Or e-mail me?
Or e-mail me?
We could buy RJs tomorrow but then again, how would increasing our seat-mile cost fit our bussiness model?
Airline Domestic Unit Costs (Cents per Mile)
2nd Quarter 2005
Southwest 7.1
American Eagle 14.2
Comair 14.1
SkyWest 13.3
Pinnacle 12.8
Atlantic Southeast 12.3
ExpressJet 12.6
Mesa 10.3
Source: Bureau of Transportation Statistics; Form 41; Schedule P1.2. T100; T2 Data
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10-13-2005 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by CRJammin
I think that calling Southwest a low cost carrier is a misnomer. At least WRT what they pay their pilots.
Keep in mind that when the SWA pilots negotiated their contract (and extensions) they were no where near achieving an "industry leading" contract. SWA management, however, has lived up to their bargain and continued to pay the agreed-upon wages while other companies have continously sought concessions. Thus, SWA didn't so much rise to the top as all the others fell.
SWA is currently involved in an aggressive cost reduction program. Unlike other carriers, SWA looks to impact their employees LAST. SWA's pay scales are fully in line with the company's goals of maintaining an overall LOW COST structure.
11-03-2006 | 11:55 AM
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11-03-2006 | 12:04 PM
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I think that calling Southwest a low cost carrier is a misnomer. At least WRT what they pay their pilots.
12 yr. 737 captain:
SWA $190 per hour
Delta $173
Cont. $163
Amer. $158
5 yr. 737 first officer:
SWA $114
Delta $105
Cont. $91
Amer. $93
Those are some Legacy straight pay pilot costs
12 yr. 737 captain:
SWA $190 per hour
Delta $173
Cont. $163
Amer. $158
5 yr. 737 first officer:
SWA $114
Delta $105
Cont. $91
Amer. $93
Those are some Legacy straight pay pilot costs
11-03-2006 | 07:32 PM
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