Pilotdude3407

We were going into PHL one day and a PA popped up on guard. We thought it was real until this dude literally hit every Delta stereotype in the book on the announcement (both pilots military, what jets they flew, how much time between them, etc) and I thought this was just a little too out there to be real. It went on for 2-3 min straight. Naturally guard had a meltdown and people were stepping all over themselves trying to mock “the Delta” crew. We had to turn it off for landing and taxiing to the gate we turned it back on and it was still a meltdown on guard. Seriously, the trolling on guard has gotten out of hand.


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FlyyGuyy

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vessbot

You think the first Guard-off of the year has already happened?

Elevation

Probably the best way to handle guard nonsense is just not to laugh at it.

As an aside at my carrier we have a pilot who thinks it's quite droll to tell everyone its smooth when its turbulent just to mess with pax carriers. Same type of deal.

sailingfun

When he gets someone hurt on a passenger flight he might not find it so funny. A flight attendant with a broken bone is a accident that the FAA investigates. Faking turbulence reports might be seen as careless and reckless operation.

Excargodog

You do not even HAVE to pull CVRs. Just compare the transmissions of aircrew of suspect aircraft aircrew identified through DF with their previous transmissions - readily available from preserved ATC facility interactions with those aircrew through voice identification analysis. That would require a few hours (or perhaps even days depending on number of aircraft in the area) work but no real technical challenges, or legal ones either.

The government is not required to even get a search warrant to pull up recordings on their tower, approach and departure, or center tapes - far less the commercial sites like ATCLive archived transmissions.

This is the digital age. Every one of us has left an ineradicable trail of voice transmissions by the time we have an ATP and generally long before that which are almost as capable as fingerprints at identifying the perps once the total number of suspects is whittled down to a few dozen or so people. Any competent Private Investigator could do the legwork. And just based on a DF steer, anybody and their brother could look at the ADS-B and and pare the suspect list down to a dozen aircraft or less.




But seriously, are you trying to defend some idiots inalienable right to make an @$$ of themselves by making idiotic transmissions that interfere with appropriate use of an emergency frequency? Good luck with that. Your own management will terminate you for gross stupidity and bad PR.

It would be easier to justify beating up some anonymous doctor who didn’t want to give up his seat than trying to justify meowing on an emergency channel because you were bored.

blizzue

I always laugh when someone calls ops on guard and a “go ahead” reply is heard.

What annoys me the most, is I have noticed people lately are so triggered by someone on guard that when someone is legitimately looking for a frequency on guard people are blocking him by saying “YER ON GARD!” happened last week. Some poor bastard couldn’t hear the frequency center kept repeating because some punks kept blocking it.

All that said, guard stays on for pure entertainment purposes.

Packrat

Set the brakes, erase the tape. Easy Peasy.

blizzue

Aww you actually think that does anything? How cute.

rickair7777

FAA maybe not. But FCC/FBI/DOJ investigating a crime? Sure they can. CVR is not the same kind of privileged communication as lawyer/client privilege.

Intentionally misusing the RF spectrum is an intentional crime, it's covered by federal criminal law, not the FARs.

And it doesn't matter one whit what your union contract says about it

I like having guard up so I don't go NORDO. Don't want to do paperwork or get a private tactical airshow just so some childish dooshbags can get their jollies off. And who knows, there might be an actual emergency. I have on two occasions in the course of my career heard pilots helping another pilot in distress via guard.