Could drug save mass furloughs
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For those of you who would like a more in-depth explanation of why chloroquine might be effective against the wu flu... don't @ me...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1XNHNUlapk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1XNHNUlapk
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Not a cure but certainly a way out of the quagmire. Big data can help us out of this one. As scientists scramble to find a cure nature is already way out in front as those who have had it have developed their own resistance.
Previously we could only knew if someone had it at that point in time. There was no restrospective test.
With the tests described in the article we can apparently test to see if you have it or importantly have had it. This means that through data we can get a much better picture of where we are at... With the current 'point in time' test we arre missing a big part of the picture.
Bangladesh claims they can bang these tests out at $3 a pop. Bill Ackman came up with a great idea...get tested.....if you've had it you get a bracelet and are therefore allowed back into the streets and quickly away from the em masse quarantines.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/new-blood-tests-antibodies-could-show-true-scale-coronavirus-pandemic
'Widespread antibody testing could also provide key data for efforts to model the course of the pandemic. Current predictions vary so widely, causing some scientists to question the need for severe containment methods such as lockdowns and social distancing. By indicating how much of the population is already immune because of mild infections, antibody data could offer a key to how fast the virus will continue to spread.
Such data could inform practical issues such as whether and how to reopen schools that have been closed. Relatively few cases have been diagnosed among children, but it isn’t clear whether that’s because they don’t get infected or because their infections are generally so mild that they go unnoticed. Testing children for SARS-CoV-2 antibodies should resolve that.'
Previously we could only knew if someone had it at that point in time. There was no restrospective test.
With the tests described in the article we can apparently test to see if you have it or importantly have had it. This means that through data we can get a much better picture of where we are at... With the current 'point in time' test we arre missing a big part of the picture.
Bangladesh claims they can bang these tests out at $3 a pop. Bill Ackman came up with a great idea...get tested.....if you've had it you get a bracelet and are therefore allowed back into the streets and quickly away from the em masse quarantines.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/new-blood-tests-antibodies-could-show-true-scale-coronavirus-pandemic
'Widespread antibody testing could also provide key data for efforts to model the course of the pandemic. Current predictions vary so widely, causing some scientists to question the need for severe containment methods such as lockdowns and social distancing. By indicating how much of the population is already immune because of mild infections, antibody data could offer a key to how fast the virus will continue to spread.
Such data could inform practical issues such as whether and how to reopen schools that have been closed. Relatively few cases have been diagnosed among children, but it isn’t clear whether that’s because they don’t get infected or because their infections are generally so mild that they go unnoticed. Testing children for SARS-CoV-2 antibodies should resolve that.'
Last edited by Tom Bradys Cat; 03-24-2020 at 06:45 AM.
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Yes it will be very important to have a test to determine "have" we had it ever... necessary to understand the full scope, analyze herd immunity, and how long immunity lasts.
This thing probably cannot mutate is quickly and readily as the flu, but it still might evolve into different strains and come back at some point.
This thing probably cannot mutate is quickly and readily as the flu, but it still might evolve into different strains and come back at some point.
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And another reputable article on the same point. I wouldnt be surprised if wothin a week or two we see a massive uptake in this way forward.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nobel-prize-winner-says-virus-curve-will-flatten-in-couple-of-weeks-20200324-p54dib.html
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nobel-prize-winner-says-virus-curve-will-flatten-in-couple-of-weeks-20200324-p54dib.html
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I feel like I'm talking to myself here but I'll post anyway.
Found this one.....
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/game-changer-britain-days-away-from-releasing-millions-of-coronavirus-finger-prick-tests-20200326-p54dyy.html
If this pulls off we may be seeing a light at the end of the tunnel much sooner than first though.
As previously said big data and lotsa testing to get those post-infected back to work seems to be the most immediate away to open the world up again.
I sinserely hppe this works......
In summary..... Prick your finger. Tells you if you have had it. Its cheap and can be mass produced. Posaibly avaliable early next week.
You heard if here first
Found this one.....
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/game-changer-britain-days-away-from-releasing-millions-of-coronavirus-finger-prick-tests-20200326-p54dyy.html
If this pulls off we may be seeing a light at the end of the tunnel much sooner than first though.
As previously said big data and lotsa testing to get those post-infected back to work seems to be the most immediate away to open the world up again.
I sinserely hppe this works......
In summary..... Prick your finger. Tells you if you have had it. Its cheap and can be mass produced. Posaibly avaliable early next week.
You heard if here first
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I feel like I'm talking to myself here but I'll post anyway.
Found this one.....
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/...26-p54dyy.html
If this pulls off we may be seeing a light at the end of the tunnel much sooner than first though.
As previously said big data and lotsa testing to get those post-infected back to work seems to be the most immediate away to open the world up again.
I sinserely hppe this works......
In summary..... Prick your finger. Tells you if you have had it. Its cheap and can be mass produced. Posaibly avaliable early next week.
You heard if here first
Found this one.....
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/...26-p54dyy.html
If this pulls off we may be seeing a light at the end of the tunnel much sooner than first though.
As previously said big data and lotsa testing to get those post-infected back to work seems to be the most immediate away to open the world up again.
I sinserely hppe this works......
In summary..... Prick your finger. Tells you if you have had it. Its cheap and can be mass produced. Posaibly avaliable early next week.
You heard if here first
But key caveat from the article..."Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s key medical and scientific advisers have repeatedly stressed that someone who has been infected cannot be reinfected, despite there being some isolated reports of that happening in other countries."
They will need to figure out how likely/possible re-infection is, and also how many people may remain infectious carriers.
It's more likely IMO that most folks clear the virus fully, are not contagious, and have good immunity to the virus for a long time (typically several years).
Some viruses (HIV, Herpes) hide out in specific tissues where they are harder for the immune system to deal with (or just infect the immune system in the case of HIV). But most viruses, including the general family of respiratory viruses, function in tissues which are accessible to the immune system and so can be flushed out fully.
There will always be a few outliers, including people with health issues, whose system may struggle to clear the virus and/or may be susceptible to re-infection. That's normally a small enough number not to be an epidemic risk. Just because they found a few doesn't mean it's a huge systemic problem.
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