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Old 04-04-2020, 08:48 AM
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Well clearly it’s your kid’s fault for having a crummy immune system! How dare your kid’s right to live infringe upon other families’ freedoms to ignore science and continue to live in abject stupidity!
you don’t have the right to live.


edit. I have had a lot more vaccines than most of you. Just saying nobody should be forced to put something in there body by a government. Sets a bad precedent.
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Old 04-04-2020, 09:23 AM
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Meanwhile in Italy they are being forced to weigh up life, liberty and econimics. A progressive step in the right direction that hopefully leads the rest of the freeworld out of this predicament.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/04/world/europe/italy-coronavirus-antibodies.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories& pgtype=Homepage

'But at some stage, nearly all governments will have to strike a balance between ensuring public safety and getting their countries running again. They may also find themselves weighing what is best for society against individual rights, using biological criteria in ways that almost certainly would be rejected absent the current emergency.'

This is the way we are heading, the sooner we have the debate, get over it and move on the better we will fair as a society.
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Meanwhile in Italy they are being forced to weigh up life, liberty and econimics. A progressive step in the right direction that hopefully leads the rest of the freeworld out of this predicament.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/04/world/europe/italy-coronavirus-antibodies.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories& pgtype=Homepage

'But at some stage, nearly all governments will have to strike a balance between ensuring public safety and getting their countries running again. They may also find themselves weighing what is best for society against individual rights, using biological criteria in ways that almost certainly would be rejected absent the current emergency.'

This is the way we are heading, the sooner we have the debate, get over it and move on the better we will fair as a society.
..or have the debate, realize that it goes against our basic values, and accept the risk of living in a free society. The presumption as to where an honest debate will lead us is what I take issue with. I know where I stand from weighing the experts, costs, risks, and data.
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Old 04-05-2020, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by reCALcitrant View Post


edit. I have had a lot more vaccines than most of you. Just saying nobody should be forced to put something in there body by a government. Sets a bad precedent.
yes, this! Especially given the legal liability of a vaccine manufacturer, which is....? Check it out. Think I’m blowing smoke? See link:


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/300aa-22

I don’t care if it’s friggin Kleenex, the manufacturer takes legal responsibility for their product. Until the legal liability changes, the government should not compel-by force-the injection of vaccine you do not consent to.
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Old 04-05-2020, 09:26 AM
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I don’t care if it’s friggin Kleenex, the manufacturer takes legal responsibility for their product.
Unless you make guns
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Unless you make guns
Gun manufacturers get sued for faulty products. Kleenex doesn’t get sued is someone gets murdered with their product.
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Maybe because Kleenex is made for someone to wipe their nose with
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Maybe because Kleenex is made for someone to wipe their nose with
Kleenex isn’t intended to be used to commit crimes?
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Yeah you’re right, forgot about the tobacco companies having to pay up after getting sued for all those faulty cigarettes they sold back some years ago
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Yeah you’re right, forgot about the tobacco companies having to pay up after getting sued for all those faulty cigarettes they sold back some years ago
Tobacco is harmful when used as intended by the tobacco companies. Your argument is ridiculous. If I murder you with a shovel, should your family sue the shovel manufacturer?
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