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Old 04-04-2020, 05:21 AM
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I don’t have the answer, but it’s unsettling how much power mayors and governors think they can assert. We’ll all play along for a few weeks, then we have to accept some risk to get the country moving again.


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Old 04-04-2020, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 6Badger9 View Post
Yes. Take Italy, for example.

The epicenter of the COVID-19, yeah? As of me typing this, they have 14,681 deaths. However, in the 2016/2017 flu season, Italy recorded 24,981 deaths attributed to the flu. About 10,000 more deaths than the COVID-19, which has already “peaked”.

Just seems kind of odd to me...
Serious question...I had read there were questions regarding Italy's accounting of deaths. As in Italy's way of accounting for COVID deaths had been artificially high....? Has this been addressed or corrected?
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Old 04-04-2020, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by RAHkid94 View Post
In my terrible “socialist” big city where I pay marginally more in taxes than the neighboring “freedom loving” states all schools are providing takeout relatively healthy lunches to kids and families that need it, even in the poorest neighborhoods.

it’s almost like areas that believed in having a safety net for people have safety nets for people, and why places that didn’t are ready to sacrifice grandma to the god of Mammon to save their own skins.

That’s interesting because I live in one of the most conservative and Christian towns in America and they are doing the same thing. Your point is? Quit making excuses for socialism because you’re the sucker paying more in taxes for a ****ty product.


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Old 04-04-2020, 06:43 AM
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Serious question...I had read there were questions regarding Italy's accounting of deaths. As in Italy's way of accounting for COVID deaths had been artificially high....? Has this been addressed or corrected?

I don’t think so. From what I heard, someone could be on his/her deathbed with stage 4 lung cancer, and if he/she happens to “acquire” the COVID-19 disease before passing, they will put that as his/her death.
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Old 04-04-2020, 06:55 AM
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I don’t think so. From what I heard, someone could be on his/her deathbed with stage 4 lung cancer, and if he/she happens to “acquire” the COVID-19 disease before passing, they will put that as his/her death.
And if that person was shot, the death would be attributed to the bullet and not the cancer. The bullet caused the death regardless of the underlying condition. Same with Covid19
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Old 04-04-2020, 07:09 AM
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imagine being so out of touch that you think people don’t *want* to pass out masks.

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Old 04-04-2020, 07:41 AM
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You attempted to make a comparison of handing out a product during normal times of life vs. handing out something that is in short supply during a pandemic. What point were you trying to make exactly?
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Old 04-04-2020, 08:04 AM
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You attempted to make a comparison of handing out a product during normal times of life vs. handing out something that is in short supply during a pandemic. What point were you trying to make exactly?
My point? If you are asking why pandemic response materials are in short supply than you got the point.

Liberal availability of condoms is a result of a pandemic response.

How we ended up with a inability to respond and a shortage of supplies are not a result of money. In the US its about long standing misplaced priorities.

Condom availability has been a priority. Masks, ventilators, point of service testing, state hospital bed increases, border security and screening for infectious pathogens simply have not.
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My point? If you are asking why pandemic response materials are in short supply than you got the point.

Liberal availability of condoms is a result of a pandemic response.

How we ended up with a inability to respond and a shortage of supplies are not a result of money. In the US its about long standing misplaced priorities.

Condom availability has been a priority. Masks, ventilators, point of service testing, state hospital bed increases, border security and screening for infectious pathogens simply have not.
That's more clear now and hopefully we've learned some lessons about stockpiling certain medical supplies. Though we have to be smart to use them and resupply so they don't go bad if that applies.
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That's more clear now and hopefully we've learned some lessons about stockpiling certain medical supplies. Though we have to be smart to use them and resupply so they don't go bad if that applies.
Exactly. Stockpiling and organic means of supply.

Other than in an occasional coin op machines in a few restrooms..Condoms used to be relatively limited in point of sale opportunities. Pretty much drugstores, and even then maybe behind the counter.

Now they are in virtually every kind of retail setting.....and even in jumbo packs in the big box stores.....with ads on national TV.

The country has the same opportunity here to reclaim our lives and protect our good health.

We just have to decide its more important to allocate the resources on it instead of wasting them on things like being the worlds policeman and shovel ready jobs that arent.
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