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Old 10-13-2020, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by velosnow View Post
I'm actually from small town Midwest as it were and while generally conservative it was quite a union friendly place. So I understand that side of it as well, though our neighbors and co-workers saw the value in unions. So the small town argument just quite won't work on its own.

And it isn't governments chasing businesses out of town, it's the unpleasant side of capitalism at work pleasing the shareholders at their own employee's expense. Regulations and taxes are a part of life as are worker's rights, making profits and running a successful business. These things aren't mutually exclusive.
I’d don’t think that it is any one thing that drives businesses to relocate, but a combination of things. A unionized workforce or slightly higher tax structure alone won’t do it, but when you combine regulatory hurdles with higher taxes and labor cost, businesses are going to go to where the grass is greener. You are right, these things aren’t mutually exclusive, but combined they do shape corporate behavior and employees can find themselves priced out of the market when existing companies leave, and new ones settle elsewhere. This decision could also be about simple logistics as well. Being that the days of building a plane from scratch in SEA are long gone, it could be that it is just easier to ship and assemble the various pieces parts in another facility.
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Old 10-13-2020, 01:44 PM
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No one should be forced to join a union to get or keep a job, or be forced to pay for a union if they are not a member. And no company should be forced to accept a union on their property.
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Please move all the low skilled, low paying factory assembly jobs to South Carolina. Just be sure to keep the high skill, high paying management and engineering jobs in Seattle (which they are).
Well those “low skilled“ workers will enjoy a clean and safe downtown Charleston without having to be the victim of Chaz or stepping in some homeless person’s ****.
I’d say they are getting a good deal moving to a red state.
Seems to be a pattern recently 🤔
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Old 10-13-2020, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger View Post
So true, recently left Cali with family and the prices were very high and inventory very low on uhaul trucks. Had to get the truck and trailer at separate locations... They said they've been inundated with one way reservations leaving the state. When I arrived at our destination, there was no room for our truck and they had to move me to another location to drop off. Crazy

Enjoying open parks and nice people, I feel like I just came to the United States of America after leaving california lol
Just don’t do what all the other Californians fleeing the state are doing: voting the same idiots into government that ruined California.
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Old 10-13-2020, 01:56 PM
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Just don’t do what all the other Californians fleeing the state are doing: voting the same idiots into government that ruined California.
You mean like Austin? I had a captain tell me his neighbor moved from CA to get away from the taxes and regulations. This guy would complain about how messed up CA was, and then talk about how Texas needs to get rid of all of the guns, vote for Bernie (2016 election), and enact environmental restrictions to prevent urban sprawl.
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Well those “low skilled“ workers will enjoy a clean and safe downtown Charleston without having to be the victim of Chaz or stepping in some homeless person’s ****.
I’d say they are getting a good deal moving to a red state.
Seems to be a pattern recently 🤔
I hear North Charleston is a utopian dream!
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Old 10-13-2020, 02:21 PM
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There may not actually be much in the way of savings. Management gets payed for taking action regardless of outcome. Moving may look like a good idea at the time but the problems you flee soon catch up.
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Old 10-13-2020, 02:28 PM
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No one should be forced to join a union to get or keep a job, or be forced to pay for a union if they are not a member. And no company should be forced to accept a union on their property.
Those companies do exist if thats your thing. They like you to provide your own type and then tend to pay around $20/hr.
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer View Post
No one should be forced to join a union to get or keep a job, or be forced to pay for a union if they are not a member. And no company should be forced to accept a union on their property.
Not this again. Seriously, how long have you been in this industry?

And why do you think major airline pilot salaries are what they are?
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer View Post
No one should be forced to join a union to get or keep a job, or be forced to pay for a union if they are not a member. And no company should be forced to accept a union on their property.
I do hope that you work at a non union outfit. If not, I would encourage you to leave your current stinking union job and go to a nonunion outfit.

Damned unions ... In the past they sucked the life out of corporations and built a non deserving middle class.
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