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Old 01-17-2021 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Trowserchilli
Actually excargo dog is spot on. Most carriers attempting to be hybrids don’t survive in the long run. Your CASM continues to climb with no demand. Your no longer a low cost carrier. Now ego driven your hell bent on going to Europe. Just a few weeks ago you guys were going to grow everywhere.

Now this:

https://thepointsguy.com/news/jetblue-halts-four-cities-mid-2021/
JetBlue | JetBlue Adds Two Dozen New Routes in Markets with Strengthened Demand Potential

This was one of several press releases in 2020 with new route announcements. Suspending a few routes due to covid, while opening up more routes than are being suspended, isn’t exactly bad or indicative of a failing business model...it’s called running a business in a pandemic. Plenty of airlines still have suspended routes and/or frequencies.

And your focus on CASM and JB being a hybrid carrier (and your certainty that will lead to its demise), and the Europe growth, is funny. JB’s CASM compared to frontier’s doesn’t really mean a whole lot other than you load up A320s with 269 seats which boosts ASMs, and underpay pilots, both of which lower your CASM. Congrats. Maybe that’s how you justify your below industry standard pay and promote your sub-greyhound onboard product as superior...I don’t know and don’t really care. Most of the guys I know at frontier are good guys. Sounds like things were going well with explosive growth, and it sounds like y’all will recover well. But, if JetBlue’s business wasn’t working out (again, covid excepted, as no airline is viable in these covid times), I doubt they’d continue with their steady growth and continue down the path they were on.

And JetBlue wasn’t “growing everywhere.” It was on a 5-7% per year ASM growth rate, much of which caused only by growing the number of 200 seaters and upgauging 320s from 150 to 162 seats—in other words ASMs increased at a faster rate than actual airplane growth did—with very slow growth and rarely getting new cities/routes pre-covid. JFK/BOS to LON was the largest hole in the route map for their network. The longer the stage length, the better jetblue seems to do. Transcon and mint has been one of JetBlue’s strengths over the last several years—I don’t think London will be any different, assuming TATL traffic returns. And JetBlue has been one of the most consistently profitable airlines with the least amount of debt, despite continued growth and continued offering of more legroom than legacies, free WiFi/snacks, and IFE. In other words, they don’t need to cram people in, or skimp on other areas, or charge a bunch of ancillary fees, in order to run a viable business, while still providing a decent onboard product.

Not sure why you like to troll JetBlue so much. Sorry you didn’t get an interview, or whatever the reason is that you have an axe to grind.

Last edited by copy; 01-17-2021 at 06:45 AM.
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