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Old 01-13-2021, 09:00 AM
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Fascinating.

Just pointing out that, like other news companies, they have their revenue sources they must protect. In other words, they are not immune to bias.
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Old 01-13-2021, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by CAirBear View Post
I listen to NPR All Things Considered. BBC isn’t bad since they (most of the time) have no dog in the fight.
BBC can sometimes be incomplete/“big picture” and often lacks follow up when more facts come out after events.

Ive been overseas a few times with high profile events happened back here and the locals asking me what the hell is going, with most of their info coming from BBC. When I tuned local U.S. outlets it was much more detailed and in-depth, etc.
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I look at the source video of the politician speaking or the event. Or I read the document itself. Typically what is reported in the media bears little resemblance to the facts.
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The Economist seems to be the most clear-headed and sane.
Great podcasts too!
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I usually look at each side of the same headline and the headline itself to see how each side wants me to see it and then do some digging for myself. It’s sad what the news has become.

Having said that, I do think Reuters is one of the best out there. BBC used to have a rule when publishing something: have two independent sources, or REUTERS.
I would agree that Reuters is one of the best. But they still have an agenda. Here’s the story from the example I mentioned above.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKCN24D0HE

So start with the headline. Why is the story new case record in the first place? Why compare it to “most countries?” Why isn’t it “record testing leads to record cases discovered?” So my first issue is the headline itself and the story itself are meant to come down on FL for being open and because it’s being run by a republican.

first paragraph: calls the protests anti-mask protests. I’m pretty sure they were anti-lockdown protests but I could be wrong. But I doubt it.

then it talks about how bad it is compared to other countries, no mention of actual tests performed. The media throughout this event has just assumed China was honest when it stopped reporting cases.

I don’t have time to go dig for other countries testing numbers but the New York comparison is easy. Covidtracking.com. On the day they compare to New York, New York was doing around 50,000 tests per day which they leave out of the story. You don’t know that Florida in this case did 143,000 tests in one day until the very last paragraph (it’s given an obligatory sentence with no context). So math wise Florida was about 10-11% infection rate and New York on the record setting day was around 23-25% infection rate. More than twice that of FL. Yet the story is basically implying that FL is worse off than New York was.

Narrative.
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I would agree that Reuters is one of the best. But they still have an agenda. Here’s the story from the example I mentioned above.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKCN24D0HE

So start with the headline. Why is the story new case record in the first place? Why compare it to “most countries?” Why isn’t it “record testing leads to record cases discovered?” So my first issue is the headline itself and the story itself are meant to come down on FL for being open and because it’s being run by a republican.

first paragraph: calls the protests anti-mask protests. I’m pretty sure they were anti-lockdown protests but I could be wrong. But I doubt it.

then it talks about how bad it is compared to other countries, no mention of actual tests performed. The media throughout this event has just assumed China was honest when it stopped reporting cases.

I don’t have time to go dig for other countries testing numbers but the New York comparison is easy. Covidtracking.com. On the day they compare to New York, New York was doing around 50,000 tests per day which they leave out of the story. You don’t know that Florida in this case did 143,000 tests in one day until the very last paragraph (it’s given an obligatory sentence with no context). So math wise Florida was about 10-11% infection rate and New York on the record setting day was around 23-25% infection rate. More than twice that of FL. Yet the story is basically implying that FL is worse off than New York was.

Narrative.
On the news the other day, the media was criticizing our Country’s vaccination progress and saying how far behind we are, compared to the UK and Israel. Isreal is about the size of New Hampshire and Vermont combined, and UK is about twice the size of Florida...not quite, and the US has 47 more states if you take those 3 out. Is it a valid comparison to compare either of those 2 countries to the US when talking about this. I don’t think so. But it sounds bad, and bad news sells.
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Originally Posted by CAirBear View Post
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Fascinating.

Just by coincidence, this just came out about the other government funded (paid for by tax payers) organization’s principle counsel.

https://youtu.be/t1r2rdmWsPE
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Until business travel turns around JetBlue is in trouble,
JetBlue is about VFR and leisure. Its the big 3 that have the lions share of the now non existent business travel.
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JetBlue is about VFR and leisure. Its the big 3 that have the lions share of the now non existent business travel.
Actually excargo dog is spot on. Most carriers attempting to be hybrids don’t survive in the long run. Your CASM continues to climb with no demand. Your no longer a low cost carrier. Now ego driven your hell bent on going to Europe. Just a few weeks ago you guys were going to grow everywhere.

Now this:

https://thepointsguy.com/news/jetblue-halts-four-cities-mid-2021/
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Originally Posted by Trowserchilli View Post
Actually excargo dog is spot on. Most carriers attempting to be hybrids don’t survive in the long run. Your CASM continues to climb with no demand. Your no longer a low cost carrier. Now ego driven your hell bent on going to Europe. Just a few weeks ago you guys were going to grow everywhere.

Now this:
https://thepointsguy.com/news/jetblue-halts-four-cities-mid-2021/.

This must have been big news in your house at 2am, you’ve posted the link in every thread of the past 3 weeks which mentioned JetBlue. Wouldn’t call suspending routes like BWI-BOS as reading the tea leaves.
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