ULCC captain to Legacy?
01-15-2022, 06:16 PM
#171
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Who gives a **** that I can hold bottom 7 percent of category as a commuter? The plugs mean nothing to me. I look at big picture. Life is too short to be junior forever. I'm too old to sleep in crew room or crashpad in New York the night before every trip.
What NYC Category is only 93% for a 15 year pilot?
01-15-2022, 07:10 PM
#172
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Not sure of your math, but 2017 hire (5 years) is NYC A320 Capt at 90%.
What NYC Category is only 93% for a 15 year pilot?
What NYC Category is only 93% for a 15 year pilot?
01-15-2022, 07:54 PM
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ULCC captain to Legacy?
Originally Posted by symbian simian
1) Happening
2) Happening
3) probable
4) definite
5) questionable
6) definite (IMHO)
2) Happening
3) probable
4) definite
5) questionable
6) definite (IMHO)
It’s been said that a large LCC has become what not being allowed it to become.
01-16-2022, 12:10 AM
#174
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Originally Posted by Iceberg
The juniorist 2007 hire (and many 2008 hires senior to them) would sit about 35% on the 220A in NY. 50% DTW717A. 65% ATL717A. 38% NYC330B. Just a range of options that are all basically the plug.
01-16-2022, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Who gives a **** that I can hold bottom 7 percent of category as a commuter? The plugs mean nothing to me. I look at big picture. Life is too short to be junior forever. I'm too old to sleep in crew room or crashpad in New York the night before every trip.
01-16-2022, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Iceberg
The juniorist 2007 hire (and many 2008 hires senior to them) would sit about 35% on the 220A in NY. 50% DTW717A. 65% ATL717A. 38% NYC330B. Just a range of options that are all basically the plug.
If not, you'll be able to sit 65 percent on the smallest aircraft as captain in the biggest hub after 15 years flying 5 legs per day on an updated DC-9 making what you make now as an ULCC captain. On the 320 or 737, you'll be 95 percent or lower which might as well be the plug. Remember this is after 15 years or 8 years of heavy hiring.
01-16-2022, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I guess I'll change my advice. If you're willing to be based in New York for your whole career, go for it.
If not, you'll be able to sit 65 percent on the smallest aircraft as captain in the biggest hub after 15 years flying 5 legs per day on an updated DC-9 making what you make now as an ULCC captain. On the 320 or 737, you'll be 95 percent or lower which might as well be the plug. Remember this is after 15 years or 8 years of heavy hiring.
If not, you'll be able to sit 65 percent on the smallest aircraft as captain in the biggest hub after 15 years flying 5 legs per day on an updated DC-9 making what you make now as an ULCC captain. On the 320 or 737, you'll be 95 percent or lower which might as well be the plug. Remember this is after 15 years or 8 years of heavy hiring.
01-16-2022, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I guess I'll change my advice. If you're willing to be based in New York for your whole career, go for it.
If not, you'll be able to sit 65 percent on the smallest aircraft as captain in the biggest hub after 15 years flying 5 legs per day on an updated DC-9 making what you make now as an ULCC captain. On the 320 or 737, you'll be 95 percent or lower which might as well be the plug. Remember this is after 15 years or 8 years of heavy hiring.
If not, you'll be able to sit 65 percent on the smallest aircraft as captain in the biggest hub after 15 years flying 5 legs per day on an updated DC-9 making what you make now as an ULCC captain. On the 320 or 737, you'll be 95 percent or lower which might as well be the plug. Remember this is after 15 years or 8 years of heavy hiring.
01-16-2022, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by El Peso
Do you believe someone getting hired at a legacy today will experience the same type of progression?
Because of all the pilots we have already hired at DL, pilots hired now can expect good, but not really spectacular, seniority progression. Better than the 00-01 hires but not like 1985 or 2014/15 hires.
Last edited by Gone Flying; 01-16-2022 at 11:46 AM.
01-16-2022, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying
for what it’s worth, based on current retirements and current seniority numbers to hold certain positions it would take about 25 years to hold WB CA at DL, that’s plug in NY. Also, excluding NY it would take about 20 years to be 50% as a NB CA in most of our bases, closer to 25 in ATL.
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