AAL or UAL ??
05-10-2022 | 12:04 PM
#91
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Go to SWA and wait a decade to upgrade and never fly wide body aircraft. Go to AA for the most rapid career progress into wide body flying and onset of furlough protection via increased hiring projections.
05-10-2022 | 12:23 PM
#92
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Still probably more likely to get furloughed at AA than SWA within the next 5 years... Just ask the pilots that APA Reps elected to have kicked at the curb and laughed at on their way to get furloughed, which caused the training and delayed hiring disaster that AA is encountering today.
05-15-2022 | 02:49 AM
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By virtue of "justing working here" in a seniority based industry, your choice of airline is a much more serious investment than an investor's tiny allocation in their 401k.
05-17-2022 | 01:48 AM
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05-17-2022 | 01:52 AM
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I should have said “almost exclusively” narrow body airline. UAL has a much higher percentage of widebody flying. AAL and UAL are not close when it comes to international network and widebody fleets. I think my original statement is correct. If a future newhire has widebody aspirations they are much better off going to United. If they want a quick upgrade then AAL is probably the better choice. Yes I expect United will replace group 4 acft 1:1 with 787s or 777x. https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/u...expansion/amp/
UAL has 200 widebody acft out of 610 total or 33% (according to APC)
AAL has 112 widebody acft out of 835 or 13%.
United also has a lot more 4 Pilot routes which drives higher staffing on group 4 acft.
UAL has 200 widebody acft out of 610 total or 33% (according to APC)
AAL has 112 widebody acft out of 835 or 13%.
United also has a lot more 4 Pilot routes which drives higher staffing on group 4 acft.
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05-17-2022 | 05:20 AM
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I’m thinking the OP already made their decision by now, but in light of UAL getting an AIP and AA offering a 4% pay raise 3 year into negotiations, is there even a question? Why join a place where your work life will be immersed in a toxic contract negotiations instead of going to UAL with a brand new industry leading contract and a happy cockpit culture? Seems like a no brainer to me.
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