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Old 04-25-2022 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Guppydriver95
Point of order. United pilots call it a guppy

In no way does that make it any cooler.
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Old 04-25-2022 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
In no way does that make it any cooler.
Lol, it’s a term of endearment, not an attempt at being “cool”.
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Old 04-25-2022 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by rvfanatic
Year 2 pay starts on your anniversary of Indoc at United. I hear it’s a year after your OE complete at AA. So in the near term consider that.
Its not on completion of your OE. It’s on completion of your type ride (LOE). The scheduled date of your LOE is set when you get assigned your AC and base and even if the training gets delayed the anniversary date stays the same.
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Old 04-25-2022 | 10:20 AM
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What if someone junior to you has an earlier completion date due to better sim availability for example? Does that trigger your 2nd year pay start?
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Old 04-25-2022 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Earthboundmsfit
What if someone junior to you has an earlier completion date due to better sim availability for example? Does that trigger your 2nd year pay start?
Thats not how it works.

You bid a sim start/end date as well as aircraft/domicile at Indoc. If someone junior to you has a scheduled sim completion date before you, it’s because you didn’t bid for it.

The date for pay purposes doesn’t change even if your actual sim dates do change. You could get delayed for 25 years and be on 25 year pay awaiting your initial sim training.

Please note the sarcasm.
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Old 04-25-2022 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
Big difference is drive time. PHL is a good place to be based for AA. Lots of NB and WB flying.
How senior is the 78 at PHL?
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Old 04-25-2022 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by merica1776
How senior is the 78 at PHL?

10,700 seniority. Not sure what hire date.
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Old 04-25-2022 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by merica1776
So if you lived in Delaware about an hour from Philly (AA) and 2.5ish from Dulles and Newark (UA) would that sway you one way or the other. I consider United a better airline but driving only an hour sounds pretty nice. Any thoughts?
Depends who gives you the first class date, how young you are and what interests you.
You can be a 777/787 FO in IAD and EWR in 6-9 months at United and a 737 CA at both in 3 years (UA Is projecting 18-24 month upgrades with the 148 aircraft they’re taking by the end of 2023).

How long to GIV FO and GIII CA in PHL (honest question- last time I checked it was like 6-8 years)?

Philly probably isn’t going away for AA so if you’re young enough that you can actually make GIV CA out of PHL it’s probably worth it to stay with the shorter drive long term, but definitely apply to both and take the first offer and go from there.
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Old 04-25-2022 | 02:36 PM
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Already got DAL and UAL with an AA interview soon. I’m early thirties so I should have a while at either. I keep hearing about the rocket ship of AA seniority that’s about to blast off but UAL sounds faster at least in this case.
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Old 04-25-2022 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by merica1776
Already got DAL and UAL with an AA interview soon. I’m early thirties so I should have a while at either. I keep hearing about the rocket ship of AA seniority that’s about to blast off but UAL sounds faster at least in this case.

You probably won’t go wrong with any. AA is losing a staggering amount of the seniority list in the next 10 years. You will see upgrade/WB times fall drastically. DL has already hired a lot of young pilots. UAL and DL will have big fleet changes and aircraft retirements. AA has already done all that. With that said, AA is going through low morale and the balance sheet needs to be fixed.

The BIGGEST QOL factor in this job is living in base. I’m not a AA fanboy but I’d go to AA.

AA retirements if it helps:
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