AAL or UAL ??
04-23-2022 | 07:19 AM
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Are you serious? Look at the debt of Delta and United vs American. What a dumb retort.
American is like opening new credit cards to pay off the old maxed out ones then bragging how much debt you paid off.
It's like being half a million dollars in debt and making $100K a year.
American is like opening new credit cards to pay off the old maxed out ones then bragging how much debt you paid off.
It's like being half a million dollars in debt and making $100K a year.
04-23-2022 | 07:23 AM
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04-23-2022 | 07:24 AM
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04-23-2022 | 07:35 AM
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Copied from elsewhere (AA)
On Debt: it is significant that the company has paid off approx 4.1B in debt since the high water mark of July 2021. They are right on track to pay off their planned in 15+B debt by 2025 even by conservative estimates on free cash flow and capex. Considering the difficulty of the environment over the last year, they have done the hardest work first.
On Debt: it is significant that the company has paid off approx 4.1B in debt since the high water mark of July 2021. They are right on track to pay off their planned in 15+B debt by 2025 even by conservative estimates on free cash flow and capex. Considering the difficulty of the environment over the last year, they have done the hardest work first.
04-23-2022 | 07:40 AM
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04-23-2022 | 07:47 AM
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American Airlines Group Annual EPS
2021 $-3.09
2020 $-18.36
2019 $3.79
2018 $3.03
2017 $2.61
2016 $4.65
2015 $11.07
2014 $3.93
2013 $-6.54
04-23-2022 | 07:49 AM
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AA took a gamble with all time low interest rates to re-fleet in a short time period vs more gradually. Covid ruined that but now they have the most simplified and fuel efficient fleet. I’m sure once Delta and United are done bringing in their new aircraft the debt levels will be more even. I don’t know why it matters to the APC crowd so much, I don’t invest my money into airlines. I just work here man.
04-23-2022 | 07:51 AM
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Are you serious? Look at the debt of Delta and United vs American. What a dumb retort.
American is like opening new credit cards to pay off the old maxed out ones then bragging how much debt you paid off.
It's like being half a million dollars in debt and making $100K a year.
American is like opening new credit cards to pay off the old maxed out ones then bragging how much debt you paid off.
It's like being half a million dollars in debt and making $100K a year.
Looks like currently AA/UAL have about the same debt since that 4.1b was paid off from these 9/21 numbers.
If the forecast I posted continues on path that will put AA at 30b debt in 2025. That would below DL/UAL’s debt levels. Though, I assume they plan on paying down debt as well.
04-23-2022 | 08:02 AM
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Don't want to get into a big thing here Al, but here's a list from 2019. Maybe more telling of the long term financial management since it excludes covid.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ps-us-covid19/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ps-us-covid19/
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