Let Experienced Pilots Fly Act (Age 67)
08-08-2022, 06:10 PM
#291
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These metaphors are getting a little convoluted. Listen, all people are saying is that once you turn 65 it’s time to let other, younger folks, satisfy your wife. At 65+ you should be out there enjoying retirement, no longer burdened by such obligations. In fact, a lot of people retire early and say it’s the best thing they ever did!
08-08-2022, 06:20 PM
#293
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Your right. It's not unsafe at all that's just the ALPA BS talking point. Since when is making money a bad thing in this country? Only pilots think that way. Pension hell no, more LTD hell no, more B fund money hell no, more payed health care hell no. WTF
08-08-2022, 08:45 PM
#294
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Another ALPA BS point is that age 67 will cause displacements. Really?
08-09-2022, 01:34 AM
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Jump of a bridge, Lindsay. The pilot unions didn't create this mess. The airlines did. If they hadn't taken tax payer money and encouraged their pilots to leave, if they hadn't paused hiring for so long when every analyst from both sides of the aisle predicted a relatively short drop in travel, if they hadn't threatened furlough or sidelined thousands of pilots, if they had invested in their regional carriers and training pipelines instead of buying back stock a decade ago when the the first mentions of this started hitting the press, NONE of these issues would be happening today.
This is pure anti-union garbage. The unions aren't driving this. This is purely the fault of the airlines. Of course, I'm not surprised that that clown thinks the unions are the bad guys here.
This is pure anti-union garbage. The unions aren't driving this. This is purely the fault of the airlines. Of course, I'm not surprised that that clown thinks the unions are the bad guys here.
08-09-2022, 01:43 AM
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All the same BS talking points made when bumped to 65. Zero have come true. Just a bunch of self serving pilots crying about maybe another 4 months of reserve. Cmon get real 67 is no big deal. The 63 to 65 guys I fly with are incredibly experienced and it shows. 67 is a non issue in my book.
08-09-2022, 01:58 AM
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The House Bill will be introduced tomorrow.
Sponsors:
Lindsay Graham (R-SC)
Chip Roy (R-TX)
Cosponsors:
Clay Higgins (R-LA)
Dusty Johnson (R-SD)
Mary Miller (R-IL)
Adrian Smith (R-NE)
Lauren Boebert (R-CO)
“And to the pilot unions out there, you’re doing a disservice to the traveling public…”
-Lindsay Graham
Full Text: Let Experienced Pilots Fly Act
Sen Graham Speaks on Retirement Age
CNBC - Sen Graham Introduces Legislation
Sponsors:
Lindsay Graham (R-SC)
Chip Roy (R-TX)
Cosponsors:
Clay Higgins (R-LA)
Dusty Johnson (R-SD)
Mary Miller (R-IL)
Adrian Smith (R-NE)
Lauren Boebert (R-CO)
“And to the pilot unions out there, you’re doing a disservice to the traveling public…”
-Lindsay Graham
Full Text: Let Experienced Pilots Fly Act
Sen Graham Speaks on Retirement Age
CNBC - Sen Graham Introduces Legislation
08-09-2022, 02:04 AM
#299
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This is easy for Biden to support to help counter all the old age BS coming his way. It's actually a very good gift from the Republicans and can show bipartisanship in solving a problem. That's what voters want. My message to the Dems is block this at your own peril, the ads are being made right now blaming Democrats for all the travel chaos and frankly I think it's fair if they do nothing.
08-09-2022, 02:14 AM
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It's funny, but not unexpected. So much greed from both sides. What about all the guys who took early retirement to prevent furloughs? Probably the biggest recent boost of bidding/senority at several airlines. You do realize a great number of these 65-67yr old guys will probably be at the regionals because many of those guys never accumulated much. You bounced to a major and you want to look back and deny a guy that can pass his medical, recurrent, and line check a couple more years to store up for the long haul inflation we are going to go through for the next several years? Nice. Karma is not on your side. Cog decline can start early. The sim and the line check will identify it before it's an issue. Remember what you wrote and sock it away for several years from now. Full disclaimer..... Not going to 65 let alone 67.
Anyone that took early retirement would probably be retired anyway by now or if they have more time left before 65 they can go get hired somewhere with their fat buyout already in the bank and essentially double dip. Some are already doing this.
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