SWA or DAL?
07-10-2007, 01:49 PM
#61
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Here's some unemotional info for Codfather
Codfather--
Here is my experience at Southwest so far. No emotion. Take it FWIW. I know absolutely nothing about Delta.
Hired in 2000. Off reserve in 3 months. Every hard line since has had at least 17 days off (except February). 18 day off lines are the norm at the 3 year point.
I fly PM trips only. Lines are either AM or PM. It's easy on your body clock.
I commute. It's a no brainer. 12 flights a day to my base on SWA.
I don't fly extra and made $100k+ for my last 4 years as F/O, $120k the last two years.
I block about 720-750 hours a year.
I upgraded to captain in about 7 years and held a line in BWI first month after upgrade.
SWA is very politically correct. It's a big corporation.
1% of pilots are flaming a**holes. 1% are just ok. The rest are outstanding.
Facilities (pilot lounge etc.) are clean and new.
Going to work is not a drag. I show up, go home and forget about it.
I don't know if that helps but there it is. PM me if you want more.
Take care,
S.B.
Here is my experience at Southwest so far. No emotion. Take it FWIW. I know absolutely nothing about Delta.
Hired in 2000. Off reserve in 3 months. Every hard line since has had at least 17 days off (except February). 18 day off lines are the norm at the 3 year point.
I fly PM trips only. Lines are either AM or PM. It's easy on your body clock.
I commute. It's a no brainer. 12 flights a day to my base on SWA.
I don't fly extra and made $100k+ for my last 4 years as F/O, $120k the last two years.
I block about 720-750 hours a year.
I upgraded to captain in about 7 years and held a line in BWI first month after upgrade.
SWA is very politically correct. It's a big corporation.
1% of pilots are flaming a**holes. 1% are just ok. The rest are outstanding.
Facilities (pilot lounge etc.) are clean and new.
Going to work is not a drag. I show up, go home and forget about it.
I don't know if that helps but there it is. PM me if you want more.
Take care,
S.B.
07-10-2007, 07:56 PM
#62
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Position: 757/767
Posts: 890
Originally Posted by Sr. Barco
Codfather--
Here is my experience at Southwest so far. No emotion. Take it FWIW. I know absolutely nothing about Delta.
Hired in 2000. Off reserve in 3 months. Every hard line since has had at least 17 days off (except February). 18 day off lines are the norm at the 3 year point.
I fly PM trips only. Lines are either AM or PM. It's easy on your body clock.
I commute. It's a no brainer. 12 flights a day to my base on SWA.
I don't fly extra and made $100k+ for my last 4 years as F/O, $120k the last two years.
I block about 720-750 hours a year.
I upgraded to captain in about 7 years and held a line in BWI first month after upgrade.
SWA is very politically correct. It's a big corporation.
1% of pilots are flaming a**holes. 1% are just ok. The rest are outstanding.
Facilities (pilot lounge etc.) are clean and new.
Going to work is not a drag. I show up, go home and forget about it.
I don't know if that helps but there it is. PM me if you want more.
Take care,
S.B.
Here is my experience at Southwest so far. No emotion. Take it FWIW. I know absolutely nothing about Delta.
Hired in 2000. Off reserve in 3 months. Every hard line since has had at least 17 days off (except February). 18 day off lines are the norm at the 3 year point.
I fly PM trips only. Lines are either AM or PM. It's easy on your body clock.
I commute. It's a no brainer. 12 flights a day to my base on SWA.
I don't fly extra and made $100k+ for my last 4 years as F/O, $120k the last two years.
I block about 720-750 hours a year.
I upgraded to captain in about 7 years and held a line in BWI first month after upgrade.
SWA is very politically correct. It's a big corporation.
1% of pilots are flaming a**holes. 1% are just ok. The rest are outstanding.
Facilities (pilot lounge etc.) are clean and new.
Going to work is not a drag. I show up, go home and forget about it.
I don't know if that helps but there it is. PM me if you want more.
Take care,
S.B.
07-12-2007, 11:01 PM
#64
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Originally Posted by Deez340
Good post. Sounds like a pretty sweet deal. What's the Capt pay like? And don't worry..... we all have that 2% we could do without.
I'm pretty sure CAL and others are up there too. I think UPS and FEDEX pay their 1st year F/O's that much.
S.B.
07-13-2007, 08:28 AM
#65
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Position: 767 Cap
Posts: 1,306
Originally Posted by Sr. Barco
I'm pretty sure CAL and others are up there too. I think UPS and FEDEX pay their 1st year F/O's that much.
S.B.
S.B.
07-13-2007, 10:26 AM
#66
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Originally Posted by fdx727pilot
Naw, we treat our 1st yr guys crappy, too. They only make $54/hr. Once you get off probation, well, then the captains get a million per year, and FOs get half that. Everyone knows that!!
I love Southwest but the only widebodies on our property are based in Dallas.
S.B.
07-13-2007, 10:28 AM
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Position: TC-12B (SELRES)
Posts: 304
Originally Posted by Codfather
Maybe not a bad situation to be in but I'm new to the airlines after flying for the Navy the last 10 years and I have been hired by SWA starting in August. The kicker is I just received an intreview invitation from DAL and I am a little perplexed. Love both companies and will be shortly living in SLC (DAL domicile) which makes DAL very attractive but love the stability of SWA. Obviously not hired by DAL yet, but to interview or not? Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated.
What did you come up with?
07-13-2007, 11:14 AM
#68
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Position: B-737
Posts: 392
Originally Posted by Metal121
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Which begs the question....WHY would anyone even wonder about this decision. Slamm dunk.....SWA.
Which begs the question....WHY would anyone even wonder about this decision. Slamm dunk.....SWA.
I've seen it all baby, there's no slam dunks in this business. Good luck
07-13-2007, 01:13 PM
#69
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Position: 737 F/O
Posts: 7
DT,
After much deliberation, decided to go with SWA. DAL also seems like it would be a great place to be so it was really tough. Both have pros/cons but in the end, SWA (time will tell) was the best for my situation. Any news from you?
After much deliberation, decided to go with SWA. DAL also seems like it would be a great place to be so it was really tough. Both have pros/cons but in the end, SWA (time will tell) was the best for my situation. Any news from you?
07-13-2007, 01:31 PM
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Position: A330 First Officer
Posts: 1,465
Godfather,
You never know if you made the right decision in this industry until the day you retire. I was hired to SWA in 2000 and reading one of the SWA guys posts it looks like I would probably be a Captain right now if I had taken the class date. Instead I went to DAL. While he was making $100K a year at SWA I was on furlough. That being said no one has an aviation crystal ball that I know of. After July of 2001 every swinging richard in aviation wanted to be a Delta pilot due to our contract, now we are the goat. Go with what fits you best and don't look back and play the what if game. It will only give you an ulcer.
You never know if you made the right decision in this industry until the day you retire. I was hired to SWA in 2000 and reading one of the SWA guys posts it looks like I would probably be a Captain right now if I had taken the class date. Instead I went to DAL. While he was making $100K a year at SWA I was on furlough. That being said no one has an aviation crystal ball that I know of. After July of 2001 every swinging richard in aviation wanted to be a Delta pilot due to our contract, now we are the goat. Go with what fits you best and don't look back and play the what if game. It will only give you an ulcer.
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