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US house panel votes in age [67]
07-04-2023 | 11:37 AM
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Yeah it’s real good. Dc/medical/own occupation. Outside w2 does not count against the benefit if I remember correctly? W2 look back has some downside. So does rate • guarantee although it’s better imo. But yes good point. Might have been a compromise?
07-04-2023 | 01:28 PM
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From: guppy CA
I would see it more a benefit to subsidize flight training, and get a younger crowd coming in, rather than pay the expensive crowd to hang around. Or to go out of “medical” for 2 years. That would keep a seniority list moving, not stagnate it. Just a thought
plus not to mention ICAO will need to be changed too, IF any of those older pilots want to stay on a widebody
plus not to mention ICAO will need to be changed too, IF any of those older pilots want to stay on a widebody
There's a very good chance that the FAA Reauthorization Bill will lower ATP minimums, but that still won't fix the lack of desire for young people to be professional pilots.
As far as ICAO, the US isn't the only country with a pilot shortage; ICAO will likely change maximum age very quickly after the US.
07-04-2023 | 04:53 PM
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For the most part, the younger crowd aren't interested in being pilots.
There's a very good chance that the FAA Reauthorization Bill will lower ATP minimums, but that still won't fix the lack of desire for young people to be professional pilots.
As far as ICAO, the US isn't the only country with a pilot shortage; ICAO will likely change maximum age very quickly after the US.
There's a very good chance that the FAA Reauthorization Bill will lower ATP minimums, but that still won't fix the lack of desire for young people to be professional pilots.
As far as ICAO, the US isn't the only country with a pilot shortage; ICAO will likely change maximum age very quickly after the US.
07-04-2023 | 05:22 PM
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For the most part, the younger crowd aren't interested in being pilots.
There's a very good chance that the FAA Reauthorization Bill will lower ATP minimums, but that still won't fix the lack of desire for young people to be professional pilots.
As far as ICAO, the US isn't the only country with a pilot shortage; ICAO will likely change maximum age very quickly after the US.
There's a very good chance that the FAA Reauthorization Bill will lower ATP minimums, but that still won't fix the lack of desire for young people to be professional pilots.
As far as ICAO, the US isn't the only country with a pilot shortage; ICAO will likely change maximum age very quickly after the US.
ATP minimus are no barrier. There was never a shortage of interest when competitive minimums were much higher.
The entry requirements have dropped to practically nothing, and the pay has never been higher, and pilots have never been able to get their mitts on it sooner in their career.
The barrier to entry isn't age 67 and it isn't ATP minimums. The barrier is what it's always been: the initial cost of certification.
07-04-2023 | 06:35 PM
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The interest just isn't that great among today's youth. One can blame it on a lot of things, but it isn't going to turn around any time soon.
From my conversations with youth, there are much better career paths than flying.
07-04-2023 | 06:49 PM
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The initial cost of certification is cheaper than getting a four year degree. And that's no longer needed to be a pilot.
The interest just isn't that great among today's youth. One can blame it on a lot of things, but it isn't going to turn around any time soon.
From my conversations with youth, there are much better career paths than flying.
The interest just isn't that great among today's youth. One can blame it on a lot of things, but it isn't going to turn around any time soon.
From my conversations with youth, there are much better career paths than flying.
07-04-2023 | 07:06 PM
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I agree with your money statement, but it's also the lack of stability in the profession. One minute, you're on the fast track to the left seat, the next minute your company's handing out pink slips. That's not something that airlines can fix and is not appealing to people looking for a stable profession.
On the same note that this isn't the pilots' problem, the solutions aren't necessarily going to be anything that pilots will be happy with.
07-04-2023 | 07:12 PM
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Who said it was the pilots' problem? I didn't.
I agree with your money statement, but it's also the lack of stability in the profession. One minute, you're on the fast track to the left seat, the next minute your company's handing out pink slips. That's not something that airlines can fix and is not appealing to people looking for a stable profession.
On the same note that this isn't the pilots' problem, the solutions aren't necessarily going to be anything that pilots will be happy with.
I agree with your money statement, but it's also the lack of stability in the profession. One minute, you're on the fast track to the left seat, the next minute your company's handing out pink slips. That's not something that airlines can fix and is not appealing to people looking for a stable profession.
On the same note that this isn't the pilots' problem, the solutions aren't necessarily going to be anything that pilots will be happy with.
07-04-2023 | 07:50 PM
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There is no shortage of interest in being a pilot.
ATP minimus are no barrier. There was never a shortage of interest when competitive minimums were much higher.
The entry requirements have dropped to practically nothing, and the pay has never been higher, and pilots have never been able to get their mitts on it sooner in their career.
The barrier to entry isn't age 67 and it isn't ATP minimums. The barrier is what it's always been: the initial cost of certification.
ATP minimus are no barrier. There was never a shortage of interest when competitive minimums were much higher.
The entry requirements have dropped to practically nothing, and the pay has never been higher, and pilots have never been able to get their mitts on it sooner in their career.
The barrier to entry isn't age 67 and it isn't ATP minimums. The barrier is what it's always been: the initial cost of certification.
The initial cost of certification is cheaper than getting a four year degree. And that's no longer needed to be a pilot.
The interest just isn't that great among today's youth. One can blame it on a lot of things, but it isn't going to turn around any time soon.
From my conversations with youth, there are much better career paths than flying.
The interest just isn't that great among today's youth. One can blame it on a lot of things, but it isn't going to turn around any time soon.
From my conversations with youth, there are much better career paths than flying.
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