End of 2023 Salary Survey
12-17-2023, 07:27 PM
#11
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Joined APC: Nov 2017
Position: NYC 7ERA
Posts: 1,966
Originally Posted by iahflyr
Would be good to see those numbers without retro as those skew your pay artificially high for this year.
"Retro" is paying me for Jan/Feb/Mar at 2023 rates because we were originally paid at 2019 rates until contract was signed and accounting caught up with new rates.
12-17-2023, 07:34 PM
#12
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,205
Originally Posted by iahflyr
Would be good to see those numbers without retro as those skew your pay artificially high for this year.
12-17-2023, 07:55 PM
#13
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2010
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 27
AS 6/7-year scale, about 10.5 months NB CA pay. One month voluntary reserve.
Gross W2: $330K
Employer 401K DC: $48K
Employer HSA: $1.5K
So $380K total.
Block 400-ish, almost all one-leg days, with a couple months offline in the schoolhouse. No schedule manipulation, other than a few drops for family events.
Gross W2: $330K
Employer 401K DC: $48K
Employer HSA: $1.5K
So $380K total.
Block 400-ish, almost all one-leg days, with a couple months offline in the schoolhouse. No schedule manipulation, other than a few drops for family events.
12-17-2023, 09:42 PM
#15
Line Holder
Joined APC: Nov 2022
Position: 320
Posts: 45
Originally Posted by beancounter
Where are you based and how are you making $230k @$166 hr? That's 115 credit hours a month, every month.
captains need LT qual.... holiday pay.... it adds up.
12-17-2023, 09:46 PM
#16
Strike averted!
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: B737
Posts: 3,645
Originally Posted by realeagle
ENVOY
25 YEAR LCA
TOTAL $602k {includes $5k per Diem, $8k profit share,$40k bonus}
Worked 92 days, no weekends, no Holidays, 5 weeks vacation, 15 weeks with DTS.
$217 HR.
LCA override 100% for $435 HR almost every HR training
All OT worked at 300% with %100 override for OE
Commuter with positive space to and from
$6543 average per day worked
Maxed out 401k with company and personal contributions.
25 YEAR LCA
TOTAL $602k {includes $5k per Diem, $8k profit share,$40k bonus}
Worked 92 days, no weekends, no Holidays, 5 weeks vacation, 15 weeks with DTS.
$217 HR.
LCA override 100% for $435 HR almost every HR training
All OT worked at 300% with %100 override for OE
Commuter with positive space to and from
$6543 average per day worked
Maxed out 401k with company and personal contributions.
12-18-2023, 04:47 AM
#18
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Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 133
I'll play along.
DAL 330 FO year 1
Line holder and commute
2.5 months of training pay
115k
18k 401k company contribution
133k total
Very fortunate to be in the 330 holding a line. This wasn't supposed to happen for a long time. Better to be lucky than good I guess. Looking forward to that sweet year two payrate bump.
Hope everyone here has a great 2024!
DAL 330 FO year 1
Line holder and commute
2.5 months of training pay
115k
18k 401k company contribution
133k total
Very fortunate to be in the 330 holding a line. This wasn't supposed to happen for a long time. Better to be lucky than good I guess. Looking forward to that sweet year two payrate bump.
Hope everyone here has a great 2024!
12-18-2023, 07:04 AM
#19
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2021
Posts: 62
I like reding these, it gives great insight into what's possible within each contract and the many different ways to skin the cat to find our optimal pay vs QOL balance. I'll play too this year:
Delta 757/767 FO, mix of year 1 and year 2 pay. Split pretty evenly between line and reserve for a total of around 600 block.
Flight Pay: $150,300
Profit Sharing: $2,700
C2019 Retro Pay: $7,500
Total Income: $160,500
Per-Diem: $7,500
401k DC: $24,300
Total Comp: $192,200
Delta 757/767 FO, mix of year 1 and year 2 pay. Split pretty evenly between line and reserve for a total of around 600 block.
Flight Pay: $150,300
Profit Sharing: $2,700
C2019 Retro Pay: $7,500
Total Income: $160,500
Per-Diem: $7,500
401k DC: $24,300
Total Comp: $192,200
12-18-2023, 07:12 AM
#20
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 254
Originally Posted by 500RVR
UAL 777 CA
Line holder
Regular Pay $547,400
Retro Pay. $171,400
Total Pay $718,800
B/C Plan $95,948
Total Compensation $814,748
Line holder
Regular Pay $547,400
Retro Pay. $171,400
Total Pay $718,800
B/C Plan $95,948
Total Compensation $814,748
Year 2 UAL 737 CA (1.5 months training/FO pay)
Regular pay $304,000
Had about 1-2 unused reserve days every month for most of the year and will block about 700 hours with ~1100 hours of credit. Looking forward to one day working a lot less.
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