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01-04-2024, 07:43 PM

#21

Margaritaville

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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer

You want to silence and censor people who may have or at least offer different or alternate opinions than your own?

Dont pull your victim nonsense on me. You have all the freedom in the world to start and pay for your own website and post all the anti Pilot nonsense you want.

01-04-2024, 08:29 PM

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m3113n1a1

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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer

People shouldn't be forced to join a union and pay dues to get a job. It should be a choice. That being said, unions do a lot of good things. They also do a lot of bad things. It's a mixed bag / double edge sword.

No one is forced to work for a unionized airline. We do so by choice. If someone is extremely anti-union they can work at any non-union company that their heart desires.

01-05-2024, 07:31 AM

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Rama

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Even if you work for a unionized airline, you don't have to join the union-just pay some fee regarding the value of the union contract.
That may vary by state, but I do know a now retired crewmwmber who quit the union and kept flying.

01-05-2024, 08:33 AM

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SonicFlyer

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Originally Posted by Margaritaville

Dont pull your victim nonsense on me. You have all the freedom in the world to start and pay for your own website and post all the anti Pilot nonsense you want.

I haven't posted any "anti-pilot" posts on here at all

01-05-2024, 09:31 AM

#25

OOfff

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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer

I haven't posted any "anti-pilot" posts on here at all

being anti-union is being anti-pilot.

01-05-2024, 09:58 AM

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SonicFlyer

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Originally Posted by OOfff

being anti-union is being anti-pilot.

Only for the small-minded groupthink crowd that lacks critical thinking and independent thought skills.

Besides, I'm not anti-union, they do some good things. I'm anti-forced union, because it should be a choice.

01-05-2024, 10:18 AM

#27

OOfff

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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer

it is a choice. You can get hired at my shop and choose not to join the Union.

however, you rightfully will pay a fee for contract maintenance because you benefit from the Union contract.

01-05-2024, 10:18 AM

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Vsop

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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer

You admit the union offers good things but you don't want to be forced to join. Does that mean not forced to pay dues? The idea behind unions only works when all are united. If every worker gets the benefits of the union, then they should pay to have those benefits. I’ve been or are a part of multiple unions ALPA, Minnesota Nurses Association, and the Bloomington Federation of Teachers. All had the exact same requirements for employees to join and pay dues.

01-05-2024, 10:32 AM

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The right to not join the union while paying a reduced fee for contract services from which you obviously benefit from seems like a fair compromise.

01-05-2024, 10:49 AM

#30

at6d

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I find it odd that a pilot would want to be employed in a 121 environment and would prefer not to subscribe to legal representation. If anything other than contract dues, legal and medical representation/benefits could save your career. It’s not like the employers actually “care.”