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Old 03-10-2024 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Vsop
I would add work rules and pay. Yes it’s a 747 but it’s paid similar an LLC narrow body. Atlas FO tops out $213/hr and Frontier/Sun country FOs are topped out $180-185. Captains similarly aren’t much better paid at Atlas 313 vs 280.

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Lastly, the biggest drawback I’ve heard about Atlas is
they has/had crazy long trips. Please someone update me if this is no longer true. When I looked into Atlas ~2013, they had 20+ day trips that could be extended over 30 days. That’s too long out to have a life at home, and to me made Atlas impossible to work for.
My March has a 5 day trip and a 9 day trip. 89 hour credit. My April is a 4 day trip and a 10 day trip for 74 hours.
Things are vastly different at Atlas now than in 2013.
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Old 03-10-2024 | 06:51 PM
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Ok thanks for the insight. Is it advisable to stay in the regional world and go to legacies from there or get some internatioal widebody experience?
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Old 03-10-2024 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by hawaiicostco
Ok thanks for the insight. Is it advisable to stay in the regional world and go to legacies from there or get some internatioal widebody experience?
Generally legacies value 121 TPIC and whole person metrics over variety of experience. International widebody time has been valued by FDX/UPS.
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Old 03-11-2024 | 03:23 AM
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Ok, do US legacies hire with zero 121 time? All my 2700 hours are australian.
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Old 03-11-2024 | 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by hawaiicostco
Ok, do US legacies hire with zero 121 time? All my 2700 hours are australian.
Yes, they do.

I dont' think any of them actually care about literal time under United States 14CFR 121.

Bigger issues is whether that's 800 hours FA/18 and 1900 at Qantas or 2700 piston hours.
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Old 03-11-2024 | 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by hawaiicostco
Ok, do US legacies hire with zero 121 time? All my 2700 hours are australian.
Depends. First and foremost, do you have visa with a right to work in the US?

Are you a holder of a FAA Airman Certificate?

Do you meet the requirement for CFR 61.159?

https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-1...section-61.159
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Old 03-11-2024 | 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by VacancyBid
Because they both compete in a commodity market and that makes life difficult.
I take your meaning, but I believe the term you used in not quite what you meant.

A commodity market involves buying, selling, or trading raw products like oil, gold, or coffee beans.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c...ity-market.asp
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Old 03-11-2024 | 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
My March has a 5 day trip and a 9 day trip. 89 hour credit. My April is a 4 day trip and a 10 day trip for 74 hours.
Things are vastly different at Atlas now than in 2013.
Thanks for the update. I’m glad the schedules have improved a lot. Can the trip still be extended at company discretion? If so, for how long and how often does that happen?
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Old 03-11-2024 | 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Ski Bird
I take your meaning, but I believe the term you used in not quite what you meant.

A commodity market involves buying, selling, or trading raw products like oil, gold, or coffee beans.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c...ity-market.asp
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/commodity

See definition 3
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Old 03-11-2024 | 06:06 AM
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Apologies.

I misread what you meant by commodity market, and thought you were referring to commodities markets.
I see now that you meant the service the freight outfits provide is a commodity.
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