2024 Salary Survey Thread Drift
01-19-2025 | 06:51 AM
#11
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From: Aircraft & Seat: old & hard
Training pay, depending on the airline, compensation began from day one though, the final sim check, completion of OE, completion of first check after OE, or completion of the consolidation. Ancillary benefits such as hotel accommodations, during training, and travel benefits along with jump seat privileges. Some airlines were better than others, and some were worse than others.
Remember, being an educated consumer, as a prospective applicant, one has the opportunity to ask questions of pay arrangement and benefits during the interview process... Take it or leave it.
Remember, being an educated consumer, as a prospective applicant, one has the opportunity to ask questions of pay arrangement and benefits during the interview process... Take it or leave it.
01-19-2025 | 08:27 AM
#12
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I took it becuase the company I worked for was busy going bankrupt... But that wasn't really the point. They could have had lower capatain pay rates and I would have not complained. But there is something inherently wrong about not getting paid as PIC when you are the actual PIC.
That’s bad but how would you like to give up 3 months of a higher pay rate annually for 12 years?
01-19-2025 | 08:27 AM
#13
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From: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
I took it becuase the company I worked for was busy going bankrupt... But that wasn't really the point. They could have had lower capatain pay rates and I would have not complained. But there is something inherently wrong about not getting paid as PIC when you are the actual PIC.
01-19-2025 | 10:11 AM
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From: Maddog FO
01-19-2025 | 11:43 AM
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
We've already adjudicated that "days off" means "off", as in nonrev to Europe off.
Feel free to post unutilized reserve days as a separate line item, those can absolutely be of significant value to many people.
Feel free to post unutilized reserve days as a separate line item, those can absolutely be of significant value to many people.
01-19-2025 | 12:10 PM
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Agree. I've worked 2 days in the past 4 weeks (short call assigned). I've sat at home for the rest of the time. But I'm a commuter.....I've gotta be prepared to go catch a flight in the afternoon if I'm assigned a morning trip. Therefore, I can't go fishing until I'm well and truly on my off days. Just one data point to support the position that unused rsv days are not "off".
01-19-2025 | 01:00 PM
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To complicate the matter further we have convertable long call at my shop so you *can be* on long call and then the next day not on long call anymore. Pretty worthless if you want to do anything substantial. Like camping, being out of cell phone range in general or driving more than a few hours from the airport and staying with friends.
I wouldn't consider that a "day off" at all. Even long call is 12 hours. You can't plan on an event like a running race or team sport on a specific day. You could get called 12 hours before something that was planned for months and miss it.
Other than doing chores around the house, grocery getting and dry cleaning it's not really great for fun life events. Because even long call non convertable reserve isn't a day off it's 1/2 of a day off.
I wouldn't consider that a "day off" at all. Even long call is 12 hours. You can't plan on an event like a running race or team sport on a specific day. You could get called 12 hours before something that was planned for months and miss it.
Other than doing chores around the house, grocery getting and dry cleaning it's not really great for fun life events. Because even long call non convertable reserve isn't a day off it's 1/2 of a day off.
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