2024 Salary Survey Thread Drift
01-19-2025 | 03:01 PM
#21
Gets Weekends Off
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To complicate the matter further we have convertable long call at my shop so you *can be* on long call and then the next day not on long call anymore. Pretty worthless if you want to do anything substantial. Like camping, being out of cell phone range in general or driving more than a few hours from the airport and staying with friends.
I wouldn't consider that a "day off" at all. Even long call is 12 hours. You can't plan on an event like a running race or team sport on a specific day. You could get called 12 hours before something that was planned for months and miss it.
Other than doing chores around the house, grocery getting and dry cleaning it's not really great for fun life events. Because even long call non convertable reserve isn't a day off it's 1/2 of a day off.
I wouldn't consider that a "day off" at all. Even long call is 12 hours. You can't plan on an event like a running race or team sport on a specific day. You could get called 12 hours before something that was planned for months and miss it.
Other than doing chores around the house, grocery getting and dry cleaning it's not really great for fun life events. Because even long call non convertable reserve isn't a day off it's 1/2 of a day off.
01-19-2025 | 03:54 PM
#23
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18... 
I honestly don't get the consternation over wheter you can "nonrev to Europe" or "fish out of cell coverage" on a reserve day. Unless you get used, IT AIN'T WORK. And for me and my family, that's what matters.
Plus, for non-commuters, even being on SC is a non-event - though I don't object to SC being called 'work', regardless of used/not used. I bid almost exclusively reserve, and the number of times I've ever been called for a no-kidding minimum-time report is less than 1% of all the reserve assignments I've ever gotten (that goes for both LC and SC).
I honestly don't get the consternation over wheter you can "nonrev to Europe" or "fish out of cell coverage" on a reserve day. Unless you get used, IT AIN'T WORK. And for me and my family, that's what matters.
Plus, for non-commuters, even being on SC is a non-event - though I don't object to SC being called 'work', regardless of used/not used. I bid almost exclusively reserve, and the number of times I've ever been called for a no-kidding minimum-time report is less than 1% of all the reserve assignments I've ever gotten (that goes for both LC and SC).
01-20-2025 | 08:37 AM
#24
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Joined: Nov 2013
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From: Aircraft & Seat: old & hard
Some things are just not okay. Training pay till you were off OE, not okay. Company anniversary three months after DOH, for the rest of your career, absolutely bonkers.
01-20-2025 | 01:28 PM
#25
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Mar 2015
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From: ir.delta.com
18...
I honestly don't get the consternation over wheter you can "nonrev to Europe" or "fish out of cell coverage" on a reserve day. Unless you get used, IT AIN'T WORK. And for me and my family, that's what matters.
Plus, for non-commuters, even being on SC is a non-event - though I don't object to SC being called 'work', regardless of used/not used. I bid almost exclusively reserve, and the number of times I've ever been called for a no-kidding minimum-time report is less than 1% of all the reserve assignments I've ever gotten (that goes for both LC and SC).
I honestly don't get the consternation over wheter you can "nonrev to Europe" or "fish out of cell coverage" on a reserve day. Unless you get used, IT AIN'T WORK. And for me and my family, that's what matters.
Plus, for non-commuters, even being on SC is a non-event - though I don't object to SC being called 'work', regardless of used/not used. I bid almost exclusively reserve, and the number of times I've ever been called for a no-kidding minimum-time report is less than 1% of all the reserve assignments I've ever gotten (that goes for both LC and SC).
01-20-2025 | 02:51 PM
#28
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I get this is humor,but once again, it is not work.
All that said, let's move on and return to keeping this particular thread on topic.
01-20-2025 | 05:23 PM
#29
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Agree. I've worked 2 days in the past 4 weeks (short call assigned). I've sat at home for the rest of the time. But I'm a commuter.....I've gotta be prepared to go catch a flight in the afternoon if I'm assigned a morning trip. Therefore, I can't go fishing until I'm well and truly on my off days. Just one data point to support the position that unused rsv days are not "off".
Amen!
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01-20-2025 | 05:28 PM
#30
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To complicate the matter further we have convertable long call at my shop so you *can be* on long call and then the next day not on long call anymore. Pretty worthless if you want to do anything substantial. Like camping, being out of cell phone range in general or driving more than a few hours from the airport and staying with friends.
I wouldn't consider that a "day off" at all. Even long call is 12 hours. You can't plan on an event like a running race or team sport on a specific day. You could get called 12 hours before something that was planned for months and miss it.
Other than doing chores around the house, grocery getting and dry cleaning it's not really great for fun life events. Because even long call non convertable reserve isn't a day off it's 1/2 of a day off.
I wouldn't consider that a "day off" at all. Even long call is 12 hours. You can't plan on an event like a running race or team sport on a specific day. You could get called 12 hours before something that was planned for months and miss it.
Other than doing chores around the house, grocery getting and dry cleaning it's not really great for fun life events. Because even long call non convertable reserve isn't a day off it's 1/2 of a day off.
yep!
Certainly it's a QOL bump, just forced to take it one day at a time and can't go very far.
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