IATA Calls for Raising Pilot Age Limit to 67
11-29-2025 | 05:52 PM
#1661
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He was also on the record saying it “has to get done in the FAA reauthorization bill” and then he created EPAS as a task force because LEPF wasn't moving fast enough and “it has to get done in 2026.” Moral of the story, MF is a clown who will keep moving the goalpost and asking for money until 2028 when he retires. Then the just cause he is fighting for will suddenly not be nearly as important (unless he can keep skimming money off of other greedy pilots)
11-29-2025 | 06:23 PM
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It changes with politicians and historically has been based on feelings more than facts
Im talking about the deeper thinking part of the subject, not the monkey rote “duh law sayz”
11-29-2025 | 07:01 PM
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Come on man…
The Jr guys want to Sr guys off the roster for the exact same reason, moar seniority -> money (greed)
The “safety” argument BS is the only thing that’s honestly old and needs to be retired
If both sides honestly cared about safety we could fix that right quick by changing how we do recurrent rides, both in difficulty, making them less predictable, and making popping a ride an immediate termination.
Yet both sides crying “safety” aint about all that now are they 😆
The Jr guys want to Sr guys off the roster for the exact same reason, moar seniority -> money (greed)
The “safety” argument BS is the only thing that’s honestly old and needs to be retired
If both sides honestly cared about safety we could fix that right quick by changing how we do recurrent rides, both in difficulty, making them less predictable, and making popping a ride an immediate termination.
Yet both sides crying “safety” aint about all that now are they 😆
You’re also wrong in your assessment that both sides are the same when it comes to $. When you are asking for more of something at the expense of the majority of pilots - who are asking for absolutely nothing additional - YOU are the greedy one. Can’t be greedy if we’re not asking for any changes. Nice try at false equivalence, but that ain’t working here.
11-29-2025 | 07:12 PM
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From what I’ve seen of most of the flying public, if they are concerned with “safety” they’d be better served with less servings and watching their waist line than worried about what we do in jets.
Same with plots, I’m more concerned with the 30yr old who looks 50 and I can’t even tell if he’s wearing a belt due to his gut, than some normal human looking 66yr old.
Same with plots, I’m more concerned with the 30yr old who looks 50 and I can’t even tell if he’s wearing a belt due to his gut, than some normal human looking 66yr old.
11-29-2025 | 07:37 PM
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You totally misunderstand FARs and safety - if lobbying to change a FAR, you have to be able to document that it’s safer. Otherwise why would we change it to less safe? That would be dumb! The proof that it is safer is incumbent on those trying to change it.
You’re also wrong in your assessment that both sides are the same when it comes to $. When you are asking for more of something at the expense of the majority of pilots - who are asking for absolutely nothing additional - YOU are the greedy one. Can’t be greedy if we’re not asking for any changes. Nice try at false equivalence, but that ain’t working here.
You’re also wrong in your assessment that both sides are the same when it comes to $. When you are asking for more of something at the expense of the majority of pilots - who are asking for absolutely nothing additional - YOU are the greedy one. Can’t be greedy if we’re not asking for any changes. Nice try at false equivalence, but that ain’t working here.
11-29-2025 | 07:42 PM
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On deeper thinking, nobody after age 65 is getting better. Across the board, people peak much earlier. Look at any competition like chess champions, sports, etc.
Cognitive decline is real. Experience has long since peaked when you are in your 60’s and nobody gets sharper. Grandpa never volunteers his keys. The failsafe of a predictable simulator or pencil whipped medical to catch pilots happens well after the time they became unsafe. Just like grandpa getting his keys taken away.
Age 65 makes sense as a failsafe to catch most before they become unsafe.
Take emotions (and money) out of your opinions.
Also, duh law sayz 65.
Last edited by 180ToAJ; 11-29-2025 at 07:55 PM.
11-29-2025 | 08:09 PM
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What do you think they should say? “Well it looks likely to be less safe and at best is not proven, but yeah let’s just run an experiment on the traveling public and see what happens”?
11-30-2025 | 03:51 AM
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Lol unclutch those pearls 😂
The ones that brought up the safety argument to begin with were the 67 guys. They made the assertion that sticking around longer made us safer. They made the assertion that junior makes us less safe. Cool, then prove it. Show your work. Because if you actually can't, all you're doing is talking sh!t about other pilots.
11-30-2025 | 05:51 AM
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The younger crowd does not have the market cornered on high BMI, that's an issue across the board.
The ones that brought up the safety argument to begin with were the 67 guys. They made the assertion that sticking around longer made us safer. They made the assertion that junior makes us less safe. Cool, then prove it. Show your work. Because if you actually can't, all you're doing is talking sh!t about other pilots.
It was pretty disturbing to see some of them on FB posting right after any accident/incident, trying to figure out the experience of the pilots.
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