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Old 08-30-2025 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Freds Ex
Or put an MGTOW limit on it, how about 65,000lbs?

That’s a great compromise!

According to the EPAS FB Group, it’s now about ageism. They aren’t greedy, they are leading the fight against oppression!
They compare it to racism or sexism. (Although one of them blamed the recent accidents on minorities and females. Not even joking.)
I am sure they have all been fighting against this atrocity their entire career and not just at the last minute when it benefits them…
Old 08-30-2025 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Clearedtocross
Public safety decisions shouldn’t be done on guesswork with a “see how it goes” approach. That’s what’s being proposed.
Even ‘til this day the F/O(if over 40) requires a 6 month interval on Class I physicals to accommodate the age increase to 65.
If the other pilot’s medical requirements need to be bolstered to accommodate this, you’re admitting exactly what you’d like to disprove - that the aging pilot is less safe. Either that, or you just don’t know. And if you just don’t know, then we shouldn’t be doing it.
So now its a matter of safety? That's not what I have been consistently been hearing. The first class medical is required for captains and typically first officers. The captains have to get a new one every 6 months, 12 months for first officers. At age 35 an EKG is required, and then again at age 40 and once a year there after. I don't recall any of that being tied to age 65 when it happened, but then again I'm one the old fogies. By the way I'm old enough to have seen exceptionally good and bad pilots of all ages.
Old 08-30-2025 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dawgdriver
….as much as I doubt it, for your sake, I hope there are other things that ‘really make you happy’. If this (bad idea) passes, are you going to spend the rest of your working life really unhappy?

Haha, ok, GTFO. Somehow I’ll manage.
Old 08-31-2025 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Total BS
So now its a matter of safety? That's not what I have been consistently been hearing. The first class medical is required for captains and typically first officers. The captains have to get a new one every 6 months, 12 months for first officers. At age 35 an EKG is required, and then again at age 40 and once a year there after. I don't recall any of that being tied to age 65 when it happened, but then again I'm one the old fogies. By the way I'm old enough to have seen exceptionally good and bad pilots of all ages.
What I wrote is correct and, yep, flying is still about safety even if you are trying to extend your career by 2 years.
Old 08-31-2025 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Clearedtocross
What I wrote is correct and, yep, flying is still about safety even if you are trying to extend your career by 2 years.
Well, which is it? Is it about safety, or is it about your seniority, career progression and "fairness"? If we started restricting old coots to right seat, my money is on that you wouldn't squawk at all.
Old 08-31-2025 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 180ToAJ
That’s a great compromise!

According to the EPAS FB Group, it’s now about ageism. They aren’t greedy, they are leading the fight against oppression!
They compare it to racism or sexism. (Although one of them blamed the recent accidents on minorities and females. Not even joking.)
I am sure they have all been fighting against this atrocity their entire career and not just at the last minute when it benefits them…
”Now you see the violence inherent in the system!”
Old 08-31-2025 | 06:28 AM
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Australia and New Zealand don't have an age limit and it seems to work ok for them. I mean yeah if they were to do away with the mandatory retirement it will screw most of us in the industry short term, it will help most of us long term, but overall it will be better systemically.
Old 08-31-2025 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Clearedtocross
What I wrote is correct and, yep, flying is still about safety even if you are trying to extend your career by 2 years.
Age catches up to all of us, assigning a hard number misses the mark, good or bad. Personally I have an aunt in her 90's who is quite infirmed physically, but her memory and cognitive abilities are amazing. I am less in favor of age 67, more in favor of success in training and medical certification being the deciding factor. As for me, if 67 happens, I doubt I will want to continue past 65 (or less), but I'd like to go out on my own terms.
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Originally Posted by cfiflyguy77
Australia and New Zealand don't have an age limit and it seems to work ok for them. I mean yeah if they were to do away with the mandatory retirement it will screw most of us in the industry short term, it will help most of us long term, but overall it will be better systemically.
what, like 3 flights a day between the two countries lol?
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Originally Posted by cfiflyguy77
Australia and New Zealand don't have an age limit and it seems to work ok for them. I mean yeah if they were to do away with the mandatory retirement it will screw most of us in the industry short term, it will help most of us long term, but overall it will be better systemically.
Increasing the retirement age helps those at the top in the short and long term. Most of us lose in the short and long term, which is why most of us are against raising the age. Eliminating the retirement age, as you suggest, skews this even further and turns our profession into something closer to what the Flight Attendants get to "enjoy." Think of it like a 401k, where you delay contributions at the front end only to get a couple years of additional contributions at the back end. The numbers have to be very favorable for you to come out ahead overall in this scenario.
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