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IATA Calls for Raising Pilot Age Limit to 67

Old 09-24-2025 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 744ButtonPusher
So any actual news from the ongoing conference ?
Item 24 Group 4

No idea what the process is but it is listed as such.

Could be either tomorrow or Friday or later.
Old 09-24-2025 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 744ButtonPusher
So any actual news from the ongoing conference ?
Nothing will happen at the Conference. Its just a conference. They get together to do dog and pony shows and talk about issues. This is much like Davos. A lot of talking but not much doing.

This might start the process of doing some studies etc, just like when Age 60 went to 65. It took 3 years from them talking about it to a member vote.

There is no voting going on at this conference. Its just a conference.
Old 09-25-2025 | 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueJetDork
ICAO = UN Agency/”body”



The UN is an “equity” cesspool
nothing in this picture talks about pilot age, if you were referring to no unfair discrimination that could as easily be meant to be that all medical standards should be equal for all 193 member states. Medical standard in Europe comparing to medical standards in the US or vastly different so one could say that Europeans are being discriminated against in comparison to the American medical standards.however that might actually be a case for increasing the medical status in the US has to be safer, which would mean that it will be more difficult for Americans to renew their medicals.
Old 09-25-2025 | 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBekkestad
nothing in this picture talks about pilot age, if you were referring to no unfair discrimination that could as easily be meant to be that all medical standards should be equal for all 193 member states. Medical standard in Europe comparing to medical standards in the US or vastly different so one could say that Europeans are being discriminated against in comparison to the American medical standards.however that might actually be a case for increasing the medical status in the US has to be safer, which would mean that it will be more difficult for Americans to renew their medicals.
The entire slide deck was about removing the upper limit.

It also underscored the tension in rulemaking: no unfair discrimination and no ICAO state left behind. Capable states can remove the upper limit (principle of no unfair discrimination) they have the robust oversight. Incapable states can’t, which brings in the “no country left behind” principle.

Tension!

The increased medical standards in the US is just another ghost story. "Boo ... stop it you are scaring me" ... The US is a capable state with robust oversight, infrastructure, and data, more than enough to safely manage without an arbitrary upper limit. Nauru, can't!
Old 09-25-2025 | 11:10 AM
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WP/349 (the paper LEPF/EPAS were excited about) received some support, mostly with stipulations, but was opposed by some as well. Most notably, it was strongly opposed by both ITF and IFALPA.

WP/291 received solid support. It suggested standardizing data collection and revisiting raising the age in a few years.

The summary suggested support for 291, but not for 349.
Old 09-25-2025 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 744ButtonPusher
So any actual news from the ongoing conference ?
Issues were discussed this afternoon. Near universal support for a related general WP that called for systematic data collection and decision making. Mixed bag of support and opposition to the IATA WP, including opposition from the ICAO secretariat. Basically, send us your data and we will talk in 3 years.
Old 09-25-2025 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by bugman61
Issues were discussed this afternoon. Near universal support for a related general WP that called for systematic data collection and decision making. Mixed bag of support and opposition to the IATA WP, including opposition from the ICAO secretariat. Basically, send us your data and we will talk in 3 years.
So aside from a few thousand US airline pilots no agency or governing body really seems to care or think that it’s some kind of pressing issue? Is that kind of the takeaway? Is the latest “it’s gonna happen this time” excitement hot air? Only been following casually.
Old 09-25-2025 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by bugman61
Issues were discussed this afternoon. Near universal support for a related general WP that called for systematic data collection and decision making. Mixed bag of support and opposition to the IATA WP, including opposition from the ICAO secretariat. Basically, send us your data and we will talk in 3 years.
Agreed. Seems tabled. Unless member states rally in the drafting, it seems tabled. Those who spoke about the WP specifically and stated a position it was by my count 50/50.
Old 09-25-2025 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by bugman61
Issues were discussed this afternoon. Near universal support for a related general WP that called for systematic data collection and decision making. Mixed bag of support and opposition to the IATA WP, including opposition from the ICAO secretariat. Basically, send us your data and we will talk in 3 years.
this works. After 3 years any and all retirements that would make any difference in current pilots seniority progression for an age change are over.
Old 09-25-2025 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Extenda
So aside from a few thousand US airline pilots no agency or governing body really seems to care or think that it’s some kind of pressing issue? Is that kind of the takeaway? Is the latest “it’s gonna happen this time” excitement hot air? Only been following casually.
I'd go with a few hundred
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