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Old 03-03-2026 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Moonbeam
What price does it need to get to before your airline stops making money?
It's not just that - the cost of gas which is up over $0.20 from last month and climbing rapidly acts as a tax on the US working class.

9/10 modern day recessions have been caused by a run up in energy prices. Now to be fair, gas would have to approach $8-$9/gal to be similar to 2007 pricing. But even a move to $4-$5 is psychological and means many will pull spending.
Old 03-03-2026 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
All the more reason for US to develop its own fossil fuel resources. And to produce modern mini nuclear reactors. I don’t care if you believe in e-vehicles or not, you are going to need DISTRIBUTED electricity generated to charge them because the grid simply won’t support massive transfers fron one region to another and - for the immediate future - that’s going to have to be gas or oil fueled production. Eventually fusion power is the way to go - and generated locally, because the inverse square law really bites at a range of 93 million miles.sts. For those who have never been there, it’s a massive 19.3 MILLION acre area that gets visited by less than 2000 people a year.
Agree with SMR's in principle, although there are some questions about the economics. Probably need more development and larger-scale implementation experience to know for sure.

Worth noting that the grid (past, present, or future) will never support significant transfer of power over great distances... that's EE 101, too much resistance loss. A 1 Gigawatt plant in PHX could power a 100W light bulb in Maine. Unless you use superconductors, but then you'd need cryogenic plants to cool and distribute liquid helium every 1/2 mile

Yes, fusion eventually, but the timeline to commercially viable fusion is of course still uncertain.

Old 03-03-2026 | 07:07 AM
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Dooooooooooom!

Lol, no

we blow up middle eastern countries all the time, in my life time it’s more of a rare thing if we arnt blowing up some third world middle eastern place, just part of the war industry.

It’s just reruns
Old 03-03-2026 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Name User
It's not just that - the cost of gas which is up over $0.20 from last month and climbing rapidly acts as a tax on the US working class.

9/10 modern day recessions have been caused by a run up in energy prices. Now to be fair, gas would have to approach $8-$9/gal to be similar to 2007 pricing. But even a move to $4-$5 is psychological and means many will pull spending.
I would postulate that the math might be a bit different in 2026... many vehicles are a lot more fuel efficient than comparable ones in the past. Yes you need to be wealthy-ish to own a Tesla but lower-end hybrids, smaller engines, and other efficiency "features" are now the norm in middle/lower economic demographics.

If the *average" consumer burns less gas, then the system can tolerate more price run-up before consequences manifest.

The folks with jacked up full size king cabs with Hemis are not in that equation... they already made the choice that their car is a hobby/toy, not strictly practical transport.

For clarity, I'm not saying that I *like* oppressive federal mandates, in fact I despise the now-ubiquitous garbage eco-boost engines, but it all does factor into this situation.
Old 03-03-2026 | 07:46 AM
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Wouldn’t the very first indications that contagion has spread to the airlines be a cessation of hiring?

The next week or two should be telling on that front.
Old 03-03-2026 | 07:59 AM
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Iranian terror has been in the world’s face since Carter.
And what happened in 1953?
Old 03-03-2026 | 08:16 AM
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The Trump Admin is floating the idea of underwriting insurance for oil tankers in the region, as has been done before. That has lead to a steep drop in oil prices within minutes.
Old 03-03-2026 | 08:19 AM
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And what happened in 1953?
That was BP and co. The Shah has long since passed. These child massacring maniacs can’t blackmail the flow of crude forever. Not without superpower support anyway. They’ll bargain or perish on Persian carpet bombs. Up to them.
Old 03-03-2026 | 08:21 AM
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Iran has a ton of oil. Or so I’ve heard.

This isn’t 9/11 or 2008. The markets will be a little up and down the next few weeks but it won’t be a black swan event.

And also, that’s just my opinion which means maybe it will be a black swan event.
Old 03-03-2026 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by METO Guido
That was BP and co.
Co? CIA regime change. Oh the tangled webs we weave...
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