Black Swan Event
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So looking at the financial news today and the dow dropping 1200 points in 30 mins and oil surging to decades highs. I wonder if this is the next "event"?
Many airlines are barely hanging on (AA, JetBlue, Spirit and the Alaska group) and this could be the thing that could send us all over the edge.
The strait of Hormuz is closed as of this post.
Many airlines are barely hanging on (AA, JetBlue, Spirit and the Alaska group) and this could be the thing that could send us all over the edge.
The strait of Hormuz is closed as of this post.
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Maybe?..........Maybe not?
Like everything we won't really know until the "event" has ended.
The markets are sure reacting like it is. Does that make them right? Not Necessarily.......but even if market reaction is inappropriate.....it will become a self fulfilling prophecy.
Like everything we won't really know until the "event" has ended.
The markets are sure reacting like it is. Does that make them right? Not Necessarily.......but even if market reaction is inappropriate.....it will become a self fulfilling prophecy.
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So looking at the financial news today and the dow dropping 1200 points in 30 mins and oil surging to decades highs. I wonder if this is the next "event"?
Many airlines are barely hanging on (AA, JetBlue, Spirit and the Alaska group) and this could be the thing that could send us all over the edge.
The strait of Hormuz is closed as of this post.
Many airlines are barely hanging on (AA, JetBlue, Spirit and the Alaska group) and this could be the thing that could send us all over the edge.
The strait of Hormuz is closed as of this post.
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So looking at the financial news today and the dow dropping 1200 points in 30 mins and oil surging to decades highs. I wonder if this is the next "event"?
Many airlines are barely hanging on (AA, JetBlue, Spirit and the Alaska group) and this could be the thing that could send us all over the edge.
The strait of Hormuz is closed as of this post.
Many airlines are barely hanging on (AA, JetBlue, Spirit and the Alaska group) and this could be the thing that could send us all over the edge.
The strait of Hormuz is closed as of this post.
And it ain’t like we don’t have vast resources we can develop. I remember some years ago there was a big brouhaha about a proposal to develop oil resources in a small proportion of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge with all manner of whining by the rabid environmentalists. For those who have never been there, it’s a massive 19.3 MILLION acre area that gets visited by less than 2000 people a year.
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So looking at the financial news today and the dow dropping 1200 points in 30 mins and oil surging to decades highs. I wonder if this is the next "event"?
Many airlines are barely hanging on (AA, JetBlue, Spirit and the Alaska group) and this could be the thing that could send us all over the edge.
The strait of Hormuz is closed as of this post.
Many airlines are barely hanging on (AA, JetBlue, Spirit and the Alaska group) and this could be the thing that could send us all over the edge.
The strait of Hormuz is closed as of this post.
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Even unadjusted for inflation$76.24 a barrel is scarcely “decades highs”.
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The USA government does not seem to have a plan regarding their intentions.
The Israeli government wants regime change. That is likely a multi-year war that chances are may not be an obtainable goal.
Netanyahu is the worst President the USA has ever had.
The markets factored in a quick de-escalation. That seems very unlikely.
Black Swan events are unpredictable by definition. MAGA delusions are very predictable -- so no, this is not a Black Swan event, but it will likely be extremely destructive to our nation, careers and standard of living. It's fairly easy to predict what is going to happen, the USA has been down this road repeatedly since World War II.
But Netanyahu say he has dreamed of this moment for the last 30 years -- so I guess that makes up for all the needless suffering.
The Israeli government wants regime change. That is likely a multi-year war that chances are may not be an obtainable goal.
Netanyahu is the worst President the USA has ever had.
The markets factored in a quick de-escalation. That seems very unlikely.
Black Swan events are unpredictable by definition. MAGA delusions are very predictable -- so no, this is not a Black Swan event, but it will likely be extremely destructive to our nation, careers and standard of living. It's fairly easy to predict what is going to happen, the USA has been down this road repeatedly since World War II.
But Netanyahu say he has dreamed of this moment for the last 30 years -- so I guess that makes up for all the needless suffering.
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This is more like Venezuela 2026 than Gulf I.
Probably the worst impact would be a temporary increase in oil prices. The good news is that Iran doesn't contribute much to the global supply (sanctions) and they don't have the capacity to degrade other countries' production infrastructure. What strike capacity they do have is rapidly vanishing.
I'm not aware that it's closed. I wouldn't doubt that traffic is slowed and some insurers are putting restrictions on their ships.
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This event is another reason why this industry can suck. The cost of living has gone up the last several years. The younger generation pilots probably have huge mortgages and young expensive families. In the 35 years in the industry I have never been comfortable financially because I know one of these uncontrollable events is just around the corner. I am a couple years from retirement and have almost no bills and I am still concerned about my future.
Hopefully things settle sooner rather than later. Hold on tight.
Hopefully things settle sooner rather than later. Hold on tight.
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All the more reason for US to develop its own fossil fuel resources. And to produce modern mini nuclear reactors. I don’t care if you believe in e-vehicles or not, you are going to need DISTRIBUTED electricity generated to charge them because the grid simply won’t support massive transfers fron one region to another and - for the immediate future - that’s going to have to be gas or oil fueled production. Eventually fusion power is the way to go - and generated locally, because the inverse square law really bites at a range of 93 million miles.
And it ain’t like we don’t have vast resources we can develop. I remember some years ago there was a big brouhaha about a proposal to develop oil resources in a small proportion of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge with all manner of whining by the rabid environmentalists. For those who have never been there, it’s a massive 19.3 MILLION acre area that gets visited by less than 2000 people a year.
And it ain’t like we don’t have vast resources we can develop. I remember some years ago there was a big brouhaha about a proposal to develop oil resources in a small proportion of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge with all manner of whining by the rabid environmentalists. For those who have never been there, it’s a massive 19.3 MILLION acre area that gets visited by less than 2000 people a year.
That fossil fuel lobby is definitely never going to let go though.
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