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Old 04-18-2026 | 02:26 PM
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Iranian ports are fishing piers until we say otherwise. No mullah gunna nullifilah that.

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Old 04-18-2026 | 03:36 PM
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Maybe the real master class is for us to keep the strait closed too, squeezing china even more.
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Old 04-18-2026 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
Yup I'll agree with all of that. Which is why the whole notion of "We're going to drop a few bombs, kill some mullahs and change the regime to a friendly one" was so delusional from the start.

Another massive change from "before" to "after" is that before this erupted, Iran never really saw control over the Strait as a realistic strategy for them; they were too afraid of the blowback. Now that they've seized control with nothing more than drones, mines, and speedboats, they have come to realize that control over the Strait gives them almost as much, if not more, leverage than their nuclear program ever did.

You see the location of one of the two ships struck today? Just a couple miles from the Emirati coast, clear across the Gulf from Iranian territory.

It’s not a massive change. The world is intentionally not helping Trump.

Let Iran close the straight after the dust is clear of this event and see how fast the whole world responds.

It is helpful they feel they have new found control, and will hopefully help them settle on a deal faster.

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Old 04-18-2026 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by OpieTaylor
It’s not a massive change. The world is intentionally not helping Trump.

Let Iran close the straight after the dust is clear of this event and see how fast the whole world responds.

It is helpful they feel they have new found control, and will hopefully help them settle on a deal faster.
Turkey has already promoted an alternative route called “The Middle Corridor”. Iran is losing any leverage they have left by the day.
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Old 04-18-2026 | 07:49 PM
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Trump is lying to the American people. How the deal was so close, how Iran had basically agreed to everything. Now Iran saying they are no where close to an agreement.



Only one side is manipulating the stock market for personal gain and grifting.
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Old 04-18-2026 | 08:01 PM
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Oh nooo. Those sweet mullah mayhem masters would never do anything like that to maintain power or privilege.

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Old 04-18-2026 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Sandybeach
Maybe the real master class is for us to keep the strait closed too, squeezing china even more.
We’re both going to suffer if that happens. Which government do you think is going to be able to hold out longer as energy costs skyrocket? Which infrastructure is better suited to weather energy shocks? I wouldn’t put too much stock in the idea that we’d come out ahead in the scenario you describe.
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Old 04-18-2026 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Trump is lying to the American people. How the deal was so close, how Iran had basically agreed to everything. Now Iran saying they are no where close to an agreement.



Only one side is manipulating the stock market for personal gain and grifting.
Relax man, open division in Iran just helps educate the intelligence community where to place focus. If he’s found people at the top who will play ball then just have to wait until the next ceasefire to ink this.

They getting a little squirmy realizing it’s the last deal they ever make with so little leverage after this. BTW who is Iran?
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Old 04-18-2026 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by PineappleXpres
Americans are soft. Which is why we elected a mad man. Don’t think we’d outlast more disciplined or less free people.
Soft but resourceful. Alternately kind and brutal. I wouldn’t want to fight us. Not if I didn’t have to.

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Old 04-18-2026 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by METO Guido
Soft but resourceful. Alternately kind and brutal. I wouldn’t want to fight us. Not if I didn’t have to.
You’re right we’ll print our way out and just hyper inflate so we can survive 10/ at the pump. I wouldn’t mess with us either, but no we won’t out last an economic crisis. Particularly self induced

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