Some of us would rather see sound decision making vs trying to profit off of the dumbassery of the public officials making said decisions and a perennially fickle market.

I put my money where my mouth is and put a few $hundred K the markets will be fine, and just yesterday added about $50k hoping to tap into this pull back… Before this Summer I plan on $50k more….

Made a killing investing in real estate during the Recession, this won’t be as lucrative but will be fun to gloat about next Fall as we revisit this thread….

“Slight” correction, the US is currently adding debt at a rate of $1 trillion every five months.
I don’t think it’s with impunity. Where did all the fiscal conservatives go all of a sudden?

Tearing our hair out… Both parties are addicted to spending, just at very slightly different levels.

Well, you can always run for Congressional representative. The pay is only about year two FO pay, and you are only guaranteed the one two year term if elected, but you can be 1/435th of the lower chamber.

But I do think you get the right to do very little and insider trade, so you have that going for you… which is nice.

Within a year, it will weaken US bond ratings, borrowing gets more expensive, and interest payments get larger thereby compounding the problem.

Wait is that true? Last I saw was $1T budget deficit for the year. Holy ****!!

So you just happened to have several hundred thousand dollars sitting as liquid cash to buy stocks in the event the market takes a huge dip.

Right. And Iran posed an imminent threat to the United States.

Yep, in late October, 2025 we crossed $38 trillion.
On March 18th, 2026 we crossed $39 trillion.
So in less than 5 months, we added $1 trillion.

If our debt rating takes a hit - likely as we go deeper into debt - the interest paid for additional borrowing increases. The more debt we have, the more difficult it becomes to climb out of it, and the more likely we are to add to it.

Metaphorically - a snowball rolling down a hill becomes increasing difficult to stop as it gathers both size and speed.

Here’s an article if you like: https://finance.yahoo.com/economy/po...201328218.html

When it comes to the national debt, both sides absolutely deserve blame. No one is clean here.

“Not really” an issue so as long as two things remain true:


Oil in Petrodollars


US Dollar as the reserve currency




Any other country that is insolvent would be tanked. But not us because those conditions are true. And we can just print money as a result.


But anyone paying any attention to world events would see the rest of the world making an attempt away from the petrodollar thing, and who knows maybe one day the world reserve is no longer the dollar. We would start World War III, IV, and V simultaneously if that ever became the case.

This is code for "please don't point out our hypocrisy"

Printing money devalues our currency and further erodes purchasing power, showing up as excessive inflation - Yup that’s what we are doing. To dismiss that as a problem = denial.
I don’t get the point about starting WWIII, IV, V as some sort of solution. World wars are economically devastating even for the “winner”, and that’s not even accounting for the massive amount of death, most of it attributed to displacement, exposure, disrupted food supply etc. its really not a good solution to anything. If you’re a “well then we can enjoy the spoils of war” type thinker, I don’t know what to tell you. I hope not.

Yes, it’s called having dry powder. But I keep mine in USDC to at least earn a little yield.

Yes, for those concerned about the national debt, do a quick search on when the most debt was added and under which presidents. And while at it, a quick search of GDP under various administrations, and a search on stock market performance under various adaministrations. I could state it here but it would possibly get taken down as “political” - in reality it’s just facts.

This whole thread turned into a discussion about why you should be buying bitcoin.

I try to orangepill anyone who will listen. Your dollars are eroding faster than your money market account can keep up. Not to mention it’s at a huge discount right now.

Ok then gamblers, look up what Warren Buffet thinks of cryptocurrencies.
A huge discount to what? There’s no intrinsic value.
Also, reminder to never take financial advice from a pilot.
Warren Buffett yes, overly confident pilot, no.

So help sponsor terrorism?

Yes, that too! It is the currency of criminals and terrorists. Easily laundered.

I’m sorry, has the US dollar never sponsored terrorism? Believe it or not hamas after October 7th posted on their website (who knew they had a website) asking people to stop sending them funds in cryptocurrencies because they’re easily traceable due to the nature of blockchain. I’m not saying bitcoin and other assets haven’t bent sent to terroristS but using that as an argument not to invest in it doesn’t hold water IMO. FIAT currencies have been funding terrorism for years but you have no problem using it in your daily life. You could argue that because terrorists use iPhones that you should never buy an iPhone or you’re sponsoring terrorism.

Here’s a congressional report on it if you want to know…
https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF12537

Discount to what? How are you determining the actual value of Bitcoin? There's literally no valuation metrics or formulas.

Bitcoin is only worth what the next sucker is willing to pay for it.

Warren Buffet is one opinion out of many and he’s basically retired I believe. He’s sees no intrinsic value in it because he doesn’t have to. He has already made his billions. I pose a question though, what is intrinsic value? Assets have value because people give it value. Baseball cards that sell for 100k have no intrinsic value, but someone bought it for 100k. Larry Finks official Blackrock position is that you should have about 5 percent allocated to BTC, while his unofficial personal position is that you should have everything in BTC. I think that’s a bit much but whatever. Jamie Dymon even has capitulated. Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are now considering your crypto holdings as assets when they assess you for a home loan, which is something they don’t do for Gold. I can take a cash loan on a decentralized finance smart contract against my BTC with no paperwork involved and never talk to another human in 5 minutes. I don’t know where Bitcoin will go, but it’s not zero. And if it’s not zero then it’s infinity. At what price will you say it finally has value? 200,000? 350,000? 1,000,000? The people who hate it have been hating it since it was priced at a penny. But it has value and today that value is 70,000 USD.

Believe me, I understand your opinion. I was once there when I didn’t understand what BTC is. I think your opinion would change if you actually invested time and energy into researching it. The smartest people on the planet have publicly disclosed bitcoin positions, every single person in this administration publicly hold bitcoin (except for David Sachs who sold all of his crypto holdings so he could be the crypto and AI czar without a conflict of interest), the tech bros and I would bet one whole bitcoin that Warren Buffett owns bitcoin. Also, if you have a 401k that invests in the SP500, you have bitcoin exposure whether you like it or not. Coinbase, Strategy, and IBIT. Brother, I promise you’re exposed to bitcoin and you don’t even know it.

hey brother, I didn’t say it didn’t happen. Please actually read my posts. Yes, it has been used to finance terrorism. Then hamas said they prefer cash because cash is harder to trace. I’m well aware of the congressional report. Again, terrorizers use iPhones, so maybe you better set yours on fire.

At a huge discount to its all time high. “Bitcoin is only worth what the next sucker is willing to pay for it.” How is that any different than nvidia stock or Gold?

The fact remains that bitcoin has been a very well performing asset. The fastest horse in the race if you will.

My take...

BTC has no inherent value, aside from a product of it's scarcity (difficulty to mine), versus it's utility to people who value privacy (mostly but not entirely criminals, rogue state and non-state actors, sovereign citizens, etc).

It *might* have utility as a speculative investment vehicle. But very hard to predict outcomes, at least for the likes of me. Personally if I was going to speculative I'd do it in a market that was easier to comprehend, like real estate or maybe VC for specific industries.

Also worth noting that blockchains *might* be susceptible to hack via quantum computing... if that happens even once, BTC and all similar crypto will become instantly worthless. I'm not saying it *can* be hacked by QC, but after looking into it a bit I also can't really say I'm confident that it cannot ever be hacked by QC.

Of course all of the above is just investment advice from a pilot.

Bro's whole platform is "just google it" lol

Asset 😂. Let me guess, you own it, recently got creamed, and are hoping to get others to buy some to raise your um “intrinsic value”.
Pump & Dump!

Which, not to argue, holds more credibility than flying advice from speculators.

Rick, actually for those who value privacy bitcoin has failed to provide that. The blockchain is visible to everybody so once a wallet is doxxed there goes your privacy. A valid point that many companies have brought up about blockchains is how to make them more private so that other companies can’t see what you’re investing in.

I think you should google my platform while you’re at it😊. Really though, I point to other sources, otherwise it’s just my opinion. And just like your opinion, those aren’t worth all that much. The other reason is that sometimes posts get taken down if there is a political element to it….and nowadays everything is political. So it’s an effort to keep to facts and not have that interfere. It’s a little extra work for you, I know😊

Um ok, I can take advice from the best investor to ever walk the planet, or a PILOT on a forum who has an incentive to add bitcoin buyers so his shares go up. I really have to think on this for a while…

Don’t hurt yourself. I’m trying to back up my position with rational thought, logic, and facts and your argument is “you’re a pilot so bitcoin is stupid, Warren Buffett is a god and I must follow only his advice.” Don’t buy it man…jeez. But at least come up with a valuable argument other than that.

You may have met or heard of someone who has gotten rich from crypto.
You likely know even more people, possibly have their phone numbers stored in your iPhone who have lost Tens of Thousands in Crypto………….they just haven’t told you.

Let’s also acknowledge that not all crypto is created equal. Fartcoin and Bitcoin are not the same investment.

Rational thought and logic at the casino - got it.
A pilot handing out gambling tips under the guise of investment advice and claims to know more than Warren Buffet.
Hilarious!

When did I claim to know more than Warren buffet? Whatever man. Dont buy it. I don’t want you to buy it. I want you to see the price at 200,000 screaming about its lack of intrinsic value.

This thread is about the economic impacts of the Iran war, drifted into a Bitcoin commercial. Carry on…

So the 10 readers on APC are gonna move the 1.33Trillion market cap of Bitcoin by...."Pump and Dump?"

Bejeezus....just how much do they pay you rich airline pilots? That is a lot of wampum to be able to do that!