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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
(Post 4019416)
The generals that were recently fired aren’t in anyone’s operational chain of command.
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Originally Posted by Freds Ex
(Post 4019425)
The DoW is cleaning house of dissenters, the fact that they aren't in the operational chain of command is gee-whiz info at best.
Dissent within military leadership clearly will not be tolerated moving forward. "Democratic Senator Chris Murphy, who is a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, offered his view on why he believes US generals are being dismissed by Hegseth. “It’s likely that experienced generals are telling Hegseth his Iran war plans are unworkable, disastrous, and deadly,” Murphy said in a Friday post on X. “Hegseth is firing a ton of experienced generals right now,” he added." https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/...-of-dismissals |
Originally Posted by Freds Ex
(Post 4019425)
The DoW is cleaning house of dissenters, the fact that they aren't in the operational chain of command is gee-whiz info at best.
Dissent within military leadership clearly will not be tolerated moving forward. "Democratic Senator Chris Murphy, who is a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, offered his view on why he believes US generals are being dismissed by Hegseth. “It’s likely that experienced generals are telling Hegseth his Iran war plans are unworkable, disastrous, and deadly,” Murphy said in a Friday post on X. “Hegseth is firing a ton of experienced generals right now,” he added." https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/...-of-dismissals |
Originally Posted by METO Guido
(Post 4019429)
True. But neither is the Secretary. Shades of the Lebanon disaster darkens the stage. No booties. One can only hope not.
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
(Post 4019451)
The secretary is in the chain of command.
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Originally Posted by Freds Ex
(Post 4019425)
The DoW is cleaning house of dissenters, the fact that they aren't in the operational chain of command is gee-whiz info at best.
Dissent within military leadership clearly will not be tolerated moving forward. "Democratic Senator Chris Murphy, who is a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, offered his view on why he believes US generals are being dismissed by Hegseth. “It’s likely that experienced generals are telling Hegseth his Iran war plans are unworkable, disastrous, and deadly,” Murphy said in a Friday post on X. “Hegseth is firing a ton of experienced generals right now,” he added." https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/...-of-dismissals And in this car, Senator Murphy is full of malarky. Politicians can say anything they want, so long as they preference it with "it's likely" or "it seems". The fact is, you have no more an idea of what really happened than anyone (and that includes me). So maybe, don't stoke the partisan fires? |
Originally Posted by METO Guido
(Post 4019473)
in as much they may get the bosses ok to replace dissidents, ok
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
(Post 4019603)
If I've learned anything in this life and military career, it's never to take the opposition hater's 'opinion' at face value.
And in this car, Senator Murphy is full of malarky. Politicians can say anything they want, so long as they preference it with "it's likely" or "it seems". The fact is, you have no more an idea of what really happened than anyone (and that includes me). So maybe, don't stoke the partisan fires? ”Partisan fires”. Seems like there are more republican politicians questioning the firing of the Army Chief of Staff than Democrats. I guess it another one of those “yawn” “emoji shrug” moments. |
Originally Posted by FangsF15
(Post 4019603)
If I've learned anything in this life and military career, it's never to take the opposition hater's 'opinion' at face value.
And in this car, Senator Murphy is full of malarky. Politicians can say anything they want, so long as they preference it with "it's likely" or "it seems". The fact is, you have no more an idea of what really happened than anyone (and that includes me). So maybe, don't stoke the partisan fires? |
Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
(Post 4019605)
I was speaking literally. You can call him a puppet, but he still signs operational orders in the SDOB. Or maybe the SWOB. Whatever they call that now.
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Originally Posted by SkyGodKing
(Post 4019218)
Oil is going up again.
The black Swan is here. |
Originally Posted by DogPit
(Post 4019632)
I thought the black swan was here a month ago? Do you ever get anything correct?
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Originally Posted by AF OneWire
(Post 4019723)
No the tariffs were the black swan remember, they were going to absolutely ruin the economy HUGE inflation.
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Originally Posted by Freds Ex
(Post 4019730)
rolling back tariffs is much easier than rolling back bombs dropped on schools, bridges, industries, etc
https://youtu.be/krxU5Y9lCS8?si=4uREUCyHr6A9FtHn |
Originally Posted by DogPit
(Post 4019632)
I thought the black swan was here a month ago? Do you ever get anything correct?
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Originally Posted by AF OneWire
(Post 4019723)
No the tariffs were the black swan remember, they were going to absolutely ruin the economy HUGE inflation.
You do realize that Trump completely backed off the tariffs that were announced on "Liberation Day," do you not? The actual tariffs ended up being a small fraction of what was announced, because even Trump could not ignore the shuddering of the bond markets. Had the announced tariffs actually been implemented, we would be in a very different situation right now. I know math is hard... |
Yall haven’t figured out how Trump works? It’s a negotiation tactic. Big threats (nobody knows for sure if he will do it) brings them all to the table and some kind of deal gets made. Nobody has walked away as far as I can tell.
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Originally Posted by at6d
(Post 4019747)
Yall haven’t figured out how Trump works? It’s a negotiation tactic. Big threats (nobody knows for sure if he will do it) brings them all to the table and some kind of deal gets made. Nobody has walked away as far as I can tell.
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
(Post 4019755)
and all it costs is the lives of a few American servicemen.
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 4019757)
Didn't they hold vigils for the 13 and act outraged that those lives were lost? Seems..... hypocritical
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Originally Posted by METO Guido
(Post 4019777)
Can’t afford to lose this one regardless. No reason to either.
Some great news. Special Forces rescued the last downed pilot. |
Originally Posted by jerryleber
(Post 4019786)
Care to define winning and losing in this case?
Some great news. Special Forces rescued the last downed pilot. |
Originally Posted by METO Guido
(Post 4019788)
We owe Iran a solid commitment to live & let live. The rest is up to them.
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Originally Posted by METO Guido
(Post 4019777)
So everyone’s suddenly forgotten what war is? Easter Sunday too. Great timing. Can’t afford to lose this one regardless. No reason to either.
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
(Post 4019319)
CNN was reporting it a hour before Fox, at least. Fox said they wanted to confirm it wasn’t just another false Iranian State Media report before reporting it.
Thankfully, one of the crew was rescued safely. Unknown whether it’s the Pilot or WSO, nor what the status of the other crewmember is. Mad props to the Hurc and Jolly’s for going feet dry in daytime. “That others may live”. |
Originally Posted by jerryleber
(Post 4019786)
Care to define winning and losing in this case?
The trick now is to not also lose in the process. Not exactly sure what the path to that looks like.
Originally Posted by jerryleber
(Post 4019786)
Some great news. Special Forces rescued the last downed pilot.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 4019794)
We already won.
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Originally Posted by jerryleber
(Post 4019790)
So this is about helping the Iranian people? Is that the standard for US military engagement in your opinion?
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Originally Posted by METO Guido
(Post 4019804)
They will or won’t help themselves. Hands off the rest of us.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 4019794)
We already won.
The trick now is to not also lose in the process. Not exactly sure what the path to that looks like. |
Originally Posted by jerryleber
(Post 4019795)
Really? Please explain how this is a win.
What' questionable is how you translate that to a strategic win in the short term |
I wonder how the markets will react to the very presidential POTUS message this morning. Will the markets see this message as a defiant statement of strength or an outburst of desperation (admission of weakness/lack of control)?
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
(Post 4019851)
Iran is now 3 weeks away from a nuclear bomb.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Vc_NanZ-Jos Was 'obliterating' this capability the objective of this war? |
Originally Posted by jerryleber
(Post 4019852)
Says who other than Benjamin Netanyahu for the past thirty years?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Vc_NanZ-Jos Was 'obliterating' this capability the objective of this war? |
Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
(Post 4019851)
Iran is now 3 weeks away from a nuclear bomb.
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
(Post 4019851)
Iran is now 3 weeks away from a nuclear bomb.
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldT...51998782539414 Happy to hear about the WSO rescue. Saddened to see on-going consequences to our companies like reduced international flying, less widebody vacancies, and reductions in hiring. Obviously fuel ramifications as well. |
[mod input]. Ok folks. Have deleted a bunch of off topic and flamebait/partisan posts.
Once again, APC is not the place to argue partisan |
Originally Posted by METO Guido
(Post 4019864)
Iran possesses motive & means. Let’s say survival of Israel is in your hands. Is rev guard superpower an eventuality you’d be prepared to accept? At least the Tel Aviv tiger is crystal clear in purpose. They’ve reached a functional accord with Egypt & the house of Saud. That should count for something.
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 4019863)
Nope. This was our last big favor to Europe before telling them, defend yourselves guys and gals. You are on your own now after 108 years of us bailing you out.
Prior to the war, the SOH was open with oil flowing. Now, Iran is emboldened to exert control over the SOH with no feasible response other than boots on the ground. Sanctions against Iranian oil have been relaxed and they now control 20% of global oil supply. Provoking an energy crisis by initiating a strategically incoherent war of choice with ill-defined objectives sure doesn't seem like a "big favor" to anyone. Causing the closure of the SOH and then telling Europe to deal with it because reopening is too difficult is a "big favor" to you? |
Originally Posted by Freds Ex
(Post 4019894)
Count for something, maybe, but probably not much. Hitler reached a functional accord with Stalin in 1939 which didn't even last two years before Operation Barbarossa. Keep an eye on Polymarket to see when Israel is going to begin their invasion of Egypt and Saudi Arabia because those are part of the plan too.
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