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Originally Posted by Name User
(Post 4029643)
AFG government, such as it was, actively harbored AQ and UBL, so they got what they had coming. I never said 9/11 was a justification for OIF, that's between you and your elected reps. |
Originally Posted by Name User
(Post 4029643)
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 4029655)
Doesn't matter where they came from, it matters who they were working for. As I said, the Saudis took out their own trash after.
AFG government, such as it was, actively harbored AQ and UBL, so they got what they had coming. I never said 9/11 was a justification for OIF, that's between you and your elected reps. |
Well this thread has gone off the tracks....
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Yeah back on topic. So obviously we’re better off than a lot of places, but let’s say there is a huge jet fuel crunch in Incheon, for example, can we reserve gas there or are we in the same spot as everyone else?
Could Europe jet fuel shortfalls mess with our summer plans? |
Originally Posted by MaxQ
(Post 4029528)
On April 7th Trump tweeted a threat to destroy the Persian nation with nuclear weapons. (".....never to be brought back again")
And yes, it appears that he came to that point simply due to impatience. (He had grown frustrstrated with them not surrendering and our economy was being harmed) It isn't the summer of '45. We are not in a total war situation with Iran.(although Iran has been put in a situation where they are in a total war circumstance with the USA) We know what using them entails. Assuming the use could be limited to Iran only, (not a certainty) after the collapse of the Iranian government from the use of nukes, then what? How would the humanitarian crisis be addressed? How would the refugee crisis be addressed? How would the USA survive the fallout of joining the ranks of history's greatest criminals? How would the world avoid devolving to Hobbesian chaos and fractured disaster? Only complete "f.. .ing morons" think that today a nuke can be used and it will be just a 'one off, that's it' event. I hope someday we find out what occurred on April 7th. And then put structures in place to control any phsycopaths with access to such power. |
Originally Posted by jerryleber
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The context of 1945 was an estimate of a million US casualties by conventional means not "to save even one US life or one US dollar." Thus, my response. I am glad you now seem to agree it "would be clearly illegal and non-proportional" today.
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Originally Posted by Extenda
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Yeah back on topic. So obviously we’re better off than a lot of places, but let’s say there is a huge jet fuel crunch in Incheon, for example, can we reserve gas there or are we in the same spot as everyone else?
Could Europe jet fuel shortfalls mess with our summer plans? |
Originally Posted by Extenda
(Post 4029706)
Yeah back on topic. So obviously we’re better off than a lot of places, but let’s say there is a huge jet fuel crunch in Incheon, for example, can we reserve gas there or are we in the same spot as everyone else?
Could Europe jet fuel shortfalls mess with our summer plans? |
Originally Posted by METO Guido
(Post 4029714)
Too late. It already has. But the FIFA World Cup is still a go. So at least there’s that:)
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