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Originally Posted by Extenda
(Post 4022697)
dude you’re a trip. Why do you feel the need to defend “your side” so aggressively? Like I want profit sharing and to not dump an increasing amount of my paycheck into a federal government black hole that I get nothing out of. That’s my relationship with whoever is leading the federal government. At best these people can keep some kind of a status quo (possibly doomed) ship moving in kind of a reasonable direction. At worst you have…well…this.
It’s like you have some weird parasocial relationship with the president. Dude he loathes you and me. We’re unionized worker bees who have the audacity to fight for our piece of the pie. Why are you carrying his water all the time? Can you critique him on a single point? Is he some kind of god to you? I mean all this in the nicest possible way, it’s just so strange to me seeing people just so all in on one particular “side”. 30T+ printing and issuing into the economy is what has ran the economy the past 20+ years. Go check your balances from 2000, and multiply it by 1.03 26 times to see how much you have benefitted from deficit spending. A doctor with exclusively Medicare patients will complain they have to pay more Medicare taxes because .gov sucks. The wealth gap has gotten so much larger because wealthy people are better at retaining money from goods and services and poor/old people are better at getting the government to issue money to them to consume goods and services. The deficit money comes off the printing press and goes to whatever need based program is your favorite and lands in “rich people” wallets. The last dentist you flew billed Medicaid at a deficit loss for filling cavities and bought an airline ticket. In other countries the Pilot and dentist make less and the kid still has tooth pain or a missing tooth, the money never showed up from the deficit printer. |
Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 4022908)
Yep, and there will doubtless be more. It’s 80 year old technology at this point. But that certainly doesn’t mean rational people want EVERYONE to have nuclear weapons and intercontinental deliver capability. And I don’t recall anyone in that group spending the last 46 years chanting “Death to America.”
While mowing down relatives with antiaircraft guns for inattention at a meeting doesn’t strike me as particularly rational, even North Korea isn’t sponsoring international terrorism in multiple countries trying to spread their particular brand of irrationality. And yeah, if I thought that was going to change I’d be all about preempting them too. But I’m still for doing what I can to keep the world a safe place for my kids, and teach them to do the same for my future grandchildren/great grandchildren/ad infinitum. It’s my culture. |
Originally Posted by Judge Smails
(Post 4022913)
I take Iran's 'Death to America' chants about as seriously as you take Trump's tweets. They've been doing it for 47 years. They're the nation equivalent of a Yorkshire Terrier that won't stop barking. No, I don't want them having a nuclear weapon either, but I also don't think they're stupid enough to use one as a first strike option.
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 4022922)
Yoy may be right. But we are all informed by and sometimes victims of our experiences.Perhaps I just have more experience with fundamentalist Islam than you do. It’s not about race or ethnicity, we have had our crazies too. Hale-Bopp cult, Jim Jones of Jamestown (in)fame, Waco cult, just to name a few. But none of them had nukes or ICBMs to deliver them
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Originally Posted by Judge Smails
(Post 4022913)
I take Iran's 'Death to America' chants about as seriously as you take Trump's tweets. They've been doing it for 47 years. They're the nation equivalent of a Yorkshire Terrier that won't stop barking. No, I don't want them having a nuclear weapon either, but I also don't think they're stupid enough to use one as a first strike option.
Also unlike even DPRK, there are probably people in the fundamentalist wing of IR politics who would be OK with kicking off end of days... using a nuclear weapon unfortunately matches up nicely with a key part of their religious mythology. Going to paradise this week might seem rational to some of them. Then you have to wonder how far up the hierarchy are they and how much influence do they have. |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 4022929)
Unfortunately IL takes everything they say literally, for good reasons.
Also unlike even DPRK, there are probably people in the fundamentalist wing of IR politics who would be OK with kicking off end of days... using a nuclear weapon unfortunately matches up nicely with a key part of their religious mythology. Going to paradise this week might seem rational to some of them. Then you have to wonder how far up the hierarchy are they and how much influence do they have. Iran has killed enough Americans and others since 1979 that we don't even need to question the validity of "Death to America" |
Originally Posted by Judge Smails
(Post 4022913)
I take Iran's 'Death to America' chants about as seriously as you take Trump's tweets. They've been doing it for 47 years. They're the nation equivalent of a Yorkshire Terrier that won't stop barking. No, I don't want them having a nuclear weapon either, but I also don't think they're stupid enough to use one as a first strike option.
Not being good enough to accomplish something is no where close to the same as exercising good discipline. When have they ever shown restraint? They are a Yorkshire terrier that has a bite history a mile long and only isn’t biting when recovering from its beatings from biting. |
Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 4022922)
Yoy may be right. But we are all informed by and sometimes victims of our experiences.Perhaps I just have more experience with fundamentalist Islam than you do. It’s not about race or ethnicity, we have had our crazies too. Hale-Bopp cult, Jim Jones of Jamestown (in)fame, Waco cult, just to name a few. But none of them had nukes or ICBMs to deliver them
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Originally Posted by AAdvocate
(Post 4022935)
Not unfortunate at all. The same people who say don't take what they say seriously are the same people who point fingers at others on why something wasn't done earlier before tragedies like 9/11.
Iran has killed enough Americans and others since 1979 that we don't even need to question the validity of "Death to America" |
Originally Posted by Judge Smails
(Post 4022944)
Do you feel the same way about Trump's genocidal threats towards Iran. I'm guessing no.
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