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Originally Posted by jerryleber
(Post 4032754)
Yes. "Half" of 20 is 10.
You even elaborated on it. I was hoping you could show us your math that added up to 10m bpd. The conversation was about the last ME oil being delivered by now, and oil not trading high enough to reflect the flow being pinched off. All the flow isn’t being pinched off, and I don’t think the straight moves 20m barrels a day at $100+ oil. |
Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 4033484)
Who said we should murder a few million? The area along Hormuz is sparsely populated, and by now mostly by combatants. Announce your intention, give everybody 48 hours to get inland and take out the remaining weapon sites with airbursts. Repeat as necessary until Iran recognizes the internationally recognized right of passage.
Why can’t we just keep paying 4-$5 a gallon for gas and choke their exports. I’ve never met anyone too poor in America to stop buying beer and cigarettes. |
Originally Posted by METO Guido
(Post 4033465)
Doubtful any smiles in the IDF classroom. Just because a mullah looks like rip van winkle doesn’t mean they can’t or won’t order up a mushroom maker suicide attack.
What’s in it for them? They would only ensure their entire annihilation. These ayatollahs care about staying in power as #1. Same with the Saudi royal family for that matter. Being in power and ruling is #1. Islam for them barely makes the top 3. Which is why the Saudi prince have their underground vices for women , alcohol, and drugs. And 15 / 19 hijackers were Saudis. Rest Jordan, Egypt, UAE. Weird. The top 4 US “allies” in the ME. Zero from Iran or Iraq. |
Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 4033514)
You don’t think Japan and Germany act rationally and lawfully?
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Originally Posted by bababouey
(Post 4033511)
Maybe that is the whole plan. He told us last year that he destroyed their nukes, and apparently our intel said they were far away from one, but suddenly they were “2 weeks away” again.
They said the legality for the bombing campaign was Israel was going to attack and Iran response was going to be to kill people Kuwait which they did. Trump bombed Iran to limit ability of Iran to harm more America’s than they did in response to planned Israel strikes, that Trump was not legally compelled to prevent Israel from doing. If Israel wants to be aggressive, what do Americans prefer, a closed straight and fewer loss of American lives, or an open straight and higher death toll of American lives. |
Originally Posted by hoover
(Post 4033556)
my other question then is if they are capping their wells and they will be damaged without repair then is not the market already priced in for this scenario? Meaning 20% of production is gone for years, therefore, it doesn't really matter if the straight is open or not?
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
(Post 4033566)
What’s in it for them? They would only ensure their entire annihilation. These ayatollahs care about staying in power as #1. Same with the Saudi royal family for that matter. Being in power and ruling is #1. Islam for them barely makes the top 3. Which is why the Saudi prince have their underground vices for women , alcohol, and drugs.
And 15 / 19 hijackers were Saudis. Rest Jordan, Egypt, UAE. Weird. The top 4 US “allies” in the ME. Zero from Iran or Iraq. Do you think there is a world where 15/19 would be from Iran or Iraq and we wouldn’t have stopped it? Do you think the ATF, FBI, CIA, DHS would allow 15 Russians to get away with a 9/11 over allowing 15 Canadians? |
Originally Posted by Lowslung
(Post 4033572)
20% of production being off the market includes Saudi, Kuwait, Qatar, and UAE, all of which must export the bulk of their oil through the strait. Those countries are not capping their wells and are most certainly looking forward to the day the strait opens.
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Originally Posted by OpieTaylor
(Post 4033569)
I have been living in America since before this started and that was never communicated.
Source: https://www.whitehouse.gov/releases/...are-fake-news/ They said the legality for the bombing campaign was Israel was going to attack and Iran response was going to be to kill people Kuwait which they did. Trump bombed Iran to limit ability of Iran to harm more America’s than they did in response to planned Israel strikes, that Trump was not legally compelled to prevent Israel from doing. If Israel wants to be aggressive, what do Americans prefer, a closed straight and fewer loss of American lives, or an open straight and higher death toll of American lives. There’s an easy answer there too. You draw the line in the sand with Israel, and tell them they cannot start a war with Iran after the June bombing. That if they try, the U.S. pulls all relations with Israel, no more weapons, guns, ammo, supplies, complete pull out of support. And acting on it. Only then would Israel think twice. Wont ever happen because AIPAC has a strong hold on our politicians, on all sides. Too much AIPAC money. So you’ll never see any motions or actions against Israel. But that was the answer to your question. There literally should be no such thing as Israel dragging us into a war. |
Originally Posted by OpieTaylor
(Post 4033573)
Whats weird we were monitoring the movements of our enemy’s and not allies?
Do you think there is a world where 15/19 would be from Iran or Iraq and we wouldn’t have stopped it? Do you think the ATF, FBI, CIA, DHS would allow 15 Russians to get away with a 9/11 over allowing 15 Canadians? If 9/11 was carried out by Russians or Chinese, we would not have started a war with Russia or with China. Because, you know, they have nukes that can reach us. Hard to clown a country that can slap you back in the same manner. |
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