Exquisite.




Filler……….

BS narrative that evolved after the fact.

I actually knew some of the folks involved. The CO was aggressive, but he was also in combat and entitled to protect his ship and crew if in doubt. There is always fog of war, even more so when the engagement is happening in the middle of densely populated water and airways. No sympathy, Iran should have just canceled commercial flights over the gulf while they were attacking US forces. I'm pretty sure the regime kind of hoped something like that would happen. They definitely did not mind when it did.

You work for the FAA, you know darn well that WE would have closed the airspace, not just kept launching unwitting martyrs into the line of fire.

There were lessons learned for future reference. But the powers that be didn't monday morning QB the guy.

It was the Germans, and it wasn't over after that.

Hegseth thought enough of the publication to include them in upcoming classified war plans. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-plans/682151/

Where do you want to start? We can go back to the 1983 Marine Barracks in Beirut... 241 Marines, or how about the Beirut Embassy Bombings? You want to exclude Iraq? Why? You can’t discuss Iranian kinetic engagement while ignoring the Quds Force and the EFPs that accounted for hundreds of U.S. casualties. Those weren't 'accidents'; they were targeted. And no, contrary to what people believe in your native Pakistan, our country and our military do not deliberately shoot down airliners full of innocent civilians. You're comparing a tragic fog-of-war accident to deliberate targeting of US and Israeli civilians. Funny how you also conveniently omit that the US paid $131 million in compensation for the accident. Do you recall Iran ever paying any compensation for their terror activities throughout the decades or say.... Khobar Towers bombing that killed 19 US airmen? I sure don't.

As for 'following the money,' it is a cliché, lazy, and pathetic pivot to AIPAC. It’s ironic that you’ve built a career as a pilot in the US while still clutching the same anti-American tropes and regional biases you were raised with..... you are deliberately dismissing a documented trail of American blood just to protect that narrative.

hard feedback, that’s what I come here for..
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But Hillary's public emails discussing State secrets was not? k, we'll pretend you actually care

There is no point, unless the ladies from The View told him it happened he won't believe you.

An airliner squawking a civilian code the entire time, on a known civilian route, in contact with ATC the entire time, on commercial air corridor amber 59, yet the ship tried to contact them on military frequencies and did not have any equipment for civilian air traffic frequencies. And because ethe US navy personnel didn't follow their own rules for resetting range identification, they (on the ship) designated it with an erroneous unfriendly IFF code, also erroneously stating that the aircraft was descending towards the ship, which it was not. And as opposed to the ship that shot it down, the crew of USS Sides, which issued one final challenge after the 10 of Vincennes, indicated that they had from take-off identified Flight 655 as a commercial flight. We had issued a NOTAM to stay more than 5 miles away from warships and that civilian traffic may continue as long as it originated/went to approved locations, which this one did. We screwed this up bad. Fog of war isn't an excuse to not follow procedure.

Thanks for clearing that up. I was literally going to ask him he was from that part of the world. Explains a lot.