And 2018-present was different, how? It was after 2018 when Trump killed the Obama deal that Iran went unchecked.

Hamad, Houthis, Hezbollah. The three Hs. Just more podcast and right wing talking points. The typical American has no clue what they are. Reminds me of when Hegseth and Vance said that they need to frame this to the public differently, because no one knows who Houthis are or where Yemen is.

Sounds like an Israeli problem, not a US problem. Or were. Now they are a US problem too. More terrorist enemies, super great!

I feel like I really didn't care about them and neither did 99.9% of Americans who just wanted to live their life here and buy cheap gas who never planned to travel to Palestine.

2018-present would be that they have less money to do so (and getting less by the day).

Terrorist groups are talking points. That’s a new take.

Kinda like the USA proking Japan with oil embargoes prior the WWII. I mean they wernt doing anything to us and Britain had been at war for 2 years before we brought Japan's warranted actions on Pearl Harbor. We should have just stayed out of that....nobody was bothering us.

You can only push a country so far(oil embargoes agsint Japan) before they will retaliate.


Kinda like that?

Brotha, I’ve been overhead as it was happening. It wasn’t just the Baathist’s & ISIS we were fighting in Iraq and Syria. Completely agree that we are sliding down the path of forever war once again, but we still have to call a spade a spade. I happen to think the current guy in the White House is about the worst case scenario for the US in times like these, but that doesn’t mean Iran gets let off the hook. I’m honestly conflicted by our current predicament. Part of me understands the argument that once we’re this deep, the only option is to finish things. Maybe, with better planning and execution, that could’ve been an option. The realist in me understands that the American public will tire of the “excursion” long before it bears the fruit it was intended to. Sh!tty situation all around.

It’s been an ongoing conflict for the region and 1st world interests since UN resolution 181 divided Jerusalem in two along a religious fault line that’s erupted into war, 1948–49, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, 2006, and 2023–present. Best outcome is face to face mediation Iran/Israel. Not bloody likely anytime soon I’d say.

That is, quite simply, a gross misrepresentation of what actually happened. The US government officially attempted to blame it on Iran, but the facts of that occurrence point overwhelmingly point to huge mistakes on the part of the US cruiser that blew them up, similar to how Russians shot down an airliner a few years ago, the Soviets shot down KAL 007 and we shot down an F-18 just a few months ago. You really need to go back and read the story of what happened. Just like all those other governments screwed one up, we screwed this one up.

I don't remember Iran attacking Pearl Harbor, do you have a link?

In concept true actually. Magnum PI season 3. Higgins was brainwashed by a sultry Persian princess who tried to use Zeus & Apollo for a diversion to hijack some poorly protected boomer docked at pearl.

I deem this your most cogent and comprehensible post of all time. Bravo sir.