Economic Impacts of Iran War
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So how close is your definition of “imminent”?
And do you seriously believe after 47 years of chanting “Death to America!” they were going to suddenly mellow out in the non-imminent time you believe we still had?
So what would you assume would have been the advanyage of letting that day get even closer?
And do you seriously believe after 47 years of chanting “Death to America!” they were going to suddenly mellow out in the non-imminent time you believe we still had?
So what would you assume would have been the advanyage of letting that day get even closer?
"If there's a 1% chance that Pakistani scientists are helping al-Qaeda build or develop a nuclear weapon, we have to treat it as a certainty in terms of our response. It's not about our analysis ... It's about our response."
- Vice President Dick Cheney, November 2001
- Vice President Dick Cheney, November 2001
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I'm not sure what's more sad, watching America fail or realizing of the citizens are too apathetic and uneducated to understand their future is less bright than the generations before them.
Wealth is created, but it also needs to be maintained.
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This morning the IEA Chief says it will take at least six months to restore energy flows and that this is the greatest ever threat to the Global energy supply. This is all because of the voluntary bilateral actions of the USA and Israel.
How will our industry cope with this? I don't think the airline executives are being sincere with their recent optimism.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.economictimes.com/industry/energy/oil-gas/iran-war-global-oil-crisis-energy-impact-iea-disruption-gulf-supply-threat-2026-middle-east-war-trump-netanyahu-middle-east/amp_articleshow/129700675.cms
How will our industry cope with this? I don't think the airline executives are being sincere with their recent optimism.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.economictimes.com/industry/energy/oil-gas/iran-war-global-oil-crisis-energy-impact-iea-disruption-gulf-supply-threat-2026-middle-east-war-trump-netanyahu-middle-east/amp_articleshow/129700675.cms
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Another chapter in our multi-decade story of our declining Empire.
I'm not sure what's more sad, watching America fail or realizing of the citizens are too apathetic and uneducated to understand their future is less bright than the generations before them.
Wealth is created, but it also needs to be maintained.
I'm not sure what's more sad, watching America fail or realizing of the citizens are too apathetic and uneducated to understand their future is less bright than the generations before them.
Wealth is created, but it also needs to be maintained.
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Difficult if not impossible to see it any other way. Well said. Cheney & Rumsfeld were sharp, dedicated guys that led us straight into a rathole on false pretext. Dead wrong in the belief Islamic populations were finally prepared to join Western values/culture. So of course, we’re doing it all over.
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That is well within the construct of SOF ops and raids which I've discussed in other threads. If you go in, accomplish something, and get out within a matter of days without taking responsibility for local infrastructure or governance that's not a quagmire.
Even if you hold a small island long-term, that's not a big deal. The people on Kharg are mostly there to support the oil ops.
If you dust off your old books from the war college, you can remind yourself that raids and similar activities are options in the early phases. They don't have to be a prelude to OIF style invasion.
As I keep saying, don't get too wrapped in bOotS oN GRoUnD.
A few Boots touching ground isn't the problem.
A lot of Boots staying on the ground would be a problem, and a very big one WRT to IR (much worse than OIF/OEF). For the US. IL seems to be talking up the need for BoG this week, perhaps they're hoping we'll do that for them?
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True and I have always said that after what I saw what happened to Iraq and Afghanistan after we tried to democratize them. However no matter what we can't let those type of rulers sponsor terror with impunity or worse have nuclear weapons. Because once they have them there is really nothing we can do any more, like North Korea.
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This morning the IEA Chief says it will take at least six months to restore energy flows and that this is the greatest ever threat to the Global energy supply. This is all because of the voluntary bilateral actions of the USA and Israel.
How will our industry cope with this? I don't think the airline executives are being sincere with their recent optimism.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.econo.../129700675.cms
How will our industry cope with this? I don't think the airline executives are being sincere with their recent optimism.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.econo.../129700675.cms
It's mildly OK if fuel prices rise slowly, and in general higher fuel price = better economy, so it's a natural hedge. This is completely different - quick jump in prices, +180% in 30 days. It's also hitting diesel and Jet A harder than regular gasoline.
#250
So how close is your definition of “imminent”?
And do you seriously believe after 47 years of chanting “Death to America!” they were going to suddenly mellow out in the non-imminent time you believe we still had?
So what would you assume would have been the advanyage of letting that day get even closer?
And do you seriously believe after 47 years of chanting “Death to America!” they were going to suddenly mellow out in the non-imminent time you believe we still had?
So what would you assume would have been the advanyage of letting that day get even closer?
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