Economic Impacts of Iran War
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"The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy" by Mearscheimer was an excellent book published about two decades ago. Joe Kent resigned today and said we are fighting this war for Israel. Is there any reason not to believe this war is because the Zionist entity controls our foreign policy? This is nothing new, it's been going on for decades. We don't fight wars because they are good for the country or the American people.
I hope our industry remains strong. But, usually my CEO says a lot of silly things which end up not verifying. I'll believe a soft landing when I see it.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...rrorism-center
I hope our industry remains strong. But, usually my CEO says a lot of silly things which end up not verifying. I'll believe a soft landing when I see it.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...rrorism-center
#142
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" Don't need to be a weatherman to know which way the wind blows"
Other than looking up a specific question, I never read the employee handbook for any company I worked for. Just show up, be honest, know your job, and don't be a jerk. The rest is foam on the beer.
Didn't do hired interview preps, yet still knew to not say ******* or smoke during the interview.
APC is merely entertainment and a chance to bring order to one's thoughts, not rocket science.
Everyday life just ain't that hard.
Other than looking up a specific question, I never read the employee handbook for any company I worked for. Just show up, be honest, know your job, and don't be a jerk. The rest is foam on the beer.
Didn't do hired interview preps, yet still knew to not say ******* or smoke during the interview.
APC is merely entertainment and a chance to bring order to one's thoughts, not rocket science.
Everyday life just ain't that hard.
#144
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No KFC’s cranking out value buckets in Cuba these days. Population same as Israel. Hypocrisy is the universal language of greed. They’re starving down there, as garbage piles high in feral cat infested streets. 100 miles south of Worth Ave.
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Look up Operation Northwood and you'll see what the US government is capable of and that was 60 years ago. This isn't some crazy theory, it's declassified from the US Govenrment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
Media, and the likes of Frank Church, put most of that to bed in the decades since. Watergate, Iran-Contra and the Biden coverup all blew up in the faces of the perps.
It's even harder in the era of internet, leaks, and now Alt Media
Distraction (ICE? JE?)
Subversive political pressure via Mossad?
Payback for decades of murdering American soldiers who were not involved with Iran?
Golden Opportunity, the A-Hole-Atollahs all in the same room together?
Israeli Ultimatum (they can always use their own nukes, and it's a good argument that a conventional war is better than letting IL get backed into what they consider a corner).
Sincere desire to improve ME stability and global economy? It will objectively be better once the dust settles, going to take IR a long time to rebuild. Maybe he views this as his legacy?
Payback for insultingly refusing to negotiate? Assassination plots?
Trump is objectively a narcissist (along with many other pols). But IMO he does not, after careful and lengthy observation, appear to actually be crazy... he just plays a crazy guy on TV.
But again, it doesn't really matter how we got here...
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#148
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Hold up. Not once did he use the word “Jew” in that paragraph. AIPAC and ADL have created an environment today in which criticism towards Israel and AIPAC - which are both foreign government interests - is construed as anti-semtitic.
This just isn’t the case. He did not say anything against the Jewish people, rather, the actions of a foreign government. Just pointing out there is a difference.
This just isn’t the case. He did not say anything against the Jewish people, rather, the actions of a foreign government. Just pointing out there is a difference.
Yes there is a difference.
From experience, I respect the hell out of IL military and intel. I consider them our most valuable ally in the region.
I understand how their world-view came about.
I also don't trust their government agencies or personnel any further than I could throw Gaza with one arm.
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The relationship the US has with the Israeli Lobby, the control and power they enjoy, is unique not only in the USA but the world.
The US-Israeli Lobby is nothing like any other lobbying group in existence.
I'm not here to debate whether this benefits the USA and our interests, but to claim the Israeli lobby is "just like any other lobby" is a belief based in denial and lack of awareness.
All evidence points that the Lobby has an immense amount of power and control on not only our foreign policy but in many aspects domestic policy as well.
It is true that not all Jewish people are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jewish, however there is no other example of a foreign lobby in the US that has so much control and power, nor is there another example in the entire world of a foreign lobby having so much control of another country. In that respect, the US-Israeli relationship is totally unique.
It is also true that Zionism was established as an ideological goal well before the Holocaust in Europe.
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