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MaxQ 03-13-2026 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 4012378)
When threads veer off into repeated violations of the posted Forum Rules, despite repeated warnings to abide by said rules, they get shut down. Per the TOS.

Perhaps it's time to revise the TOS? ( which I have never read)
Or perhaps automatically move politically fraught discussions to Hangar Talk?

Atsomoto is correct. EVERYTHING involving people is political.
I use techniques used by writers in the former communist controlled countries. Write something with an oblique reference and rely on the reader to make correlations so as to understand what and whom is actually being refered to.
It is a method that has its limitations.

CBreezy 03-13-2026 12:45 PM

Manufacturered National Security crisis now potentially leading to the temporary suspension of the Jones Act, adding more fuel to the fire for those who wish to permanently repeal it.

FangsF15 03-13-2026 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by MaxQ (Post 4012401)
Perhaps it's time to revise the TOS? ( which I have never read)
Or perhaps automatically move politically fraught discussions to Hangar Talk?

Atsomoto is correct. EVERYTHING involving people is political.
I use techniques used by writers in the former communist controlled countries. Write something with an oblique reference and rely on the reader to make correlations so as to understand what and whom is actually being refered to.
It is a method that has its limitations.

You agreed to the forum rules as part of creating your account. I strongly suggest you read them, as you will be held to them regardless. They are pinned to the top of every single forum.

Again, partisan politics are off limits, and will get posts deleted, infracted, account time-outs, and/or threads closed. APC is not the place for it.

CRJJ 03-13-2026 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by MaxQ (Post 4012401)
Perhaps it's time to revise the TOS? ( which I have never read)
Or perhaps automatically move politically fraught discussions to Hangar Talk?

Atsomoto is correct. EVERYTHING involving people is political.
I use techniques used by writers in the former communist controlled countries. Write something with an oblique reference and rely on the reader to make correlations so as to understand what and whom is actually being refered to.
It is a method that has its limitations.

So you didn’t read it but it’s time to revise it? 😂

Meme In Command 03-13-2026 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 4012405)
Manufacturered National Security crisis now potentially leading to the temporary suspension of the Jones Act, adding more fuel to the fire for those who wish to permanently repeal it.

Puerto Rico has entered the chat*

CBreezy 03-13-2026 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by Meme In Command (Post 4012415)
Puerto Rico has entered the chat*

Oh yes. I believe the 17 or 18 hurricane has been one of the leading causes of the discussion and it's coming hard from the left.

ThumbsUp 03-13-2026 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 4012416)
Oh yes. I believe the 17 or 18 hurricane has been one of the leading causes of the discussion and it's coming hard from the left.

I haven’t really been following the longer term discussions on the Jones Act, but a permanent repeal would be a huge detriment to our maritime capability.

Excargodog 03-13-2026 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 4012474)
I haven’t really been following the longer term discussions on the Jones Act, but a permanent repeal would be a huge detriment to our maritime capability.

What maritime capability?

https://www.marinelink.com/news/oped...s-china-525576

An excerpt:


Once a dominant global maritime power, the United States today operates a commercial fleet of fewer than 80 ocean-going vessels under the U.S. flag engaged in international trade — a startling figure compared to China’s rapidly expanding commercial fleet of over 5,500 ships. While China aggressively invests in shipbuilding, port infrastructure, and international shipping dominance, the U.S. fleet has withered due to decades of policy neglect, cost disadvantages, and a reliance on foreign-flag carriers.

rickair7777 03-13-2026 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by jerryleber (Post 4012365)
You had it right before.



Iran can lay low for a while, and when the traffic starts flowing drop a few mines and send a few drones. All they need is one burning tanker or even the threat of one in the SOH. The US DOE Sec already said no escorts until next month at the earliest and I don't think escorts will be close to 100% effective.

Asymmetrical.

aSymMetRicaL isn't some magical secret sauce. Exception for local insurgencies against an occupying power, which inevitably enjoy popular support (assuming the occupying power isn't willing to just exterminate them all and repopulate later, which has happened).

Again, the entire global economy isn't irrevocably bound to the bureaucratic protocols in a binder in a file cabinet at Lloyds of London... ships will sail, one way or another. Read my link above.

But it's hard to argue opinions on how this plays out, probably just going to have to check back in a month and see how it's going.

ThumbsUp 03-13-2026 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 4012480)
What maritime capability?

https://www.marinelink.com/news/oped...s-china-525576

An excerpt:

That’s the point of the Jones Act, so we don’t lose it all. Particularly on the manufacturing side.


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