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Old 08-07-2007, 06:20 PM
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no ...u have 30 747s and 52 777s...we have 122 md-11s and 120 airbusses...seems like u r doing the bashing...and we do the heavy lifting...millions of pounds a day...that's alright..u r confused..the other day i ran into a captain who said he hated his UAL job and wanted to know if i could help him get hired...he has been there 20 some years!..yikes.

don't worry about me..worry about JB, VA, SKYBUS and SWA...

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BTW...i'm joking..u seem a little serious...8 legs tomorrow?

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Old 08-07-2007, 06:22 PM
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What about UPS.
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Old 08-07-2007, 06:44 PM
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This is going to get interesting ...................... these Freight vs. Pax debates are always lively


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Old 08-07-2007, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GIANT PILOT View Post
This is going to get interesting ...................... these Freight vs. Pax debates are always lively


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I've never heard of a "Brown Boxes Bill of Rights," which is enough to base my decision on.
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Old 08-07-2007, 07:48 PM
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I wonder how many people at cargo have apps at the paxs'. I wonder how many paxs' have apps at the cargo...
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:00 PM
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Now they like to take swipes at ol' UAL on this forum. Well, that's ok. The pay sucks now. Only 2.5 years until the contract though. What will UAL pay then? Only time will tell.
A swipe, if you call it that, needs to be taken in context and you frame that perfectly. The bashing, while not personalized, was laughing about your colleague's claim that UAL is attracting the best of the best, and it will be their last airline career interview.

Today's UAL is trailing the pack in many areas, your management wants to merge the airline, your union doesn't have contractual protections to protect what's left of a shattered career. I don't wish you any ill will but those are facts.

By the time you get a pay raise, what will that be, almost a decade of brining up the industry rear? Good luck guys I hope you can rape Tilton as bad as he has you. I just don't see UAL causing qualified applicants to trip over themselves to apply, there isn't anything there.

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?????????? Do you cargo guys even have an idea as to the make up of the major carriers????? I can only imagine what the FDX crewroom must be like at night.
Yes, it's brutal working for a company that makes a billion per quarter, is able to afford the pilot contract, and has competent management. Aside from that we just brag about the new toys and places we went on vacation.

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Oh yes the MD10. One man's trash......
Yep, the MD10, paid for and pays for itself several time each year, cool huh? Speaking of trash, I commercialed the other day on a UA 777, do you guys ever clean those things? Seriously, it was disgusting.
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Young Jack View Post
I wonder how many people at cargo have apps at the paxs'. I wonder how many paxs' have apps at the cargo...
You would not believe the number of x-Fedex and x-UPS here at ol' UAL. That is why CaptainMark gets a kick out of the number of furloughed UAL guys over there at Fedex. It has come full cirle.
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:08 PM
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FDX & UPS, have nothing on the contracts that UA, AA, DL had. The sad thing is that was 4-6 yrs ago.
AA never had it. But DL and UA did!
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:18 PM
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By the time you get a pay raise, what will that be, almost a decade of brining up the industry rear? Good luck guys I hope you can rape Tilton as bad as he has you. I just don't see UAL causing qualified applicants to trip over themselves to apply, there isn't anything there.>>>>>

Oh. I don't know, 1100 applicants in 2 weeks. And the paycut came in 2003. The second one in 2005. I think it will be considerably less than a decade when we get our raise. Lets not exaggerate. It is like your co-worker CaptainMark said. "UAL set the bar". So now since were not the highest paid pilot group anymore, were ****? There are many jobs in aviation. Probably 80% pay less than ol' UAL. Even now. Probably why 2/3 of the furloughees accepted recall. Good on you for jumping ship and going to the cargo side. That does'nt mean that is best for everyone. You will just have to wait until you retire to see if you did the right thing.

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Old 08-07-2007, 08:21 PM
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all joking aside...u r correct
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