$312/$218
08-11-2007, 10:19 AM
#41
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Joined APC: May 2006
Posts: 52
Originally Posted by de727ups
"It is a job and yours currently pays more because most people don't like the lifestyle associated with freight."
I think it pays what it does because UPS and Fedex have always made money and never had a problem with bankruptcy.
I think it pays what it does because UPS and Fedex have always made money and never had a problem with bankruptcy.
Yep-I tell people to send their freight as a passenger.The seats are cheaper than mailing your junk and if we could put boxes in the seat it would be so much quieter!!!
08-11-2007, 08:40 PM
#42
Ben Salley
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: Left
Posts: 924
Originally Posted by Sasquatch
I don't feel sorry for those that left FDX for passenger jobs, that's for sure. They complained all the way into their pax jobs how bad night flying is. Yet we all know the real reason anybody left UPS or FDX in the past 10 years, it was to chase the juicy Terminal-walking airline pilot lifestyle.
08-11-2007, 09:16 PM
#43
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Originally Posted by A320fumes
And what makes you think any major airline pilot needs your sympathy?
And, for others, can we get off this "night" stuff? I've been FDX for 3 years and half my trips have been day only. Freight goes 24/7. The senior guys don't have to fly nights if they don't want to. Hell, I fly nights out of choice. My duty day on the night turns is about 8-9 hours, max. The day turns can run 12-14.
08-11-2007, 11:33 PM
#44
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: MD11 CPT
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Originally Posted by MAGNUM!!
Where have you been the past six years? Besides, once you close the door, does it really matter what's back there?
And, for others, can we get off this "night" stuff? I've been FDX for 3 years and half my trips have been day only. Freight goes 24/7. The senior guys don't have to fly nights if they don't want to. Hell, I fly nights out of choice. My duty day on the night turns is about 8-9 hours, max. The day turns can run 12-14.
And, for others, can we get off this "night" stuff? I've been FDX for 3 years and half my trips have been day only. Freight goes 24/7. The senior guys don't have to fly nights if they don't want to. Hell, I fly nights out of choice. My duty day on the night turns is about 8-9 hours, max. The day turns can run 12-14.
08-12-2007, 04:46 AM
#45
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Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob
That's rich from some Jet Blue/soon to be at Wal Mart pudknocker! But for the record I don't have any sympathy for passenger types, only pity. They will never see our pay rates or security, so they must really need to walk around terminals pointing out where the bathroom is...what a hobbyist.
08-12-2007, 05:14 AM
#46
Ben Salley
Joined APC: Feb 2006
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Posts: 924
Originally Posted by MAGNUM!!
Where have you been the past six years? Besides, once you close the door, does it really matter what's back there?
Originally Posted by MAGNUM!!
I've been at FedEx 3 years
On a side note, I actually wish you guys made $624/hour. It would help the profession and keep you less interested in what Major airline pilots post on our forums. You should feel lucky guys like me love flying pax, if we didn't, you probably would still be looking for a job. Now you concentrate on flying freight and I'll concentrate on flying pax. No need for your pity or sympathy. Let's try to respect each other's choices.
P.S. A lot of cargo guys make great, positive and thoughtful post in the "major" forum. You, on the other hand.....? There is a cargo forum.
08-12-2007, 09:51 AM
#47
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 129
Originally Posted by jsled
Never say never Bob. What does AA need to match you guys.....12%? Your rates are good, but as I pointed out they are nowhere near what UA and DAL had. Maybe on your next contract you can equal $312/hr.
08-12-2007, 10:24 AM
#48
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: MD11 CPT
Posts: 1,077
Originally Posted by jsled
Never say never Bob. What does AA need to match you guys.....12%? Your rates are good, but as I pointed out they are nowhere near what UA and DAL had. Maybe on your next contract you can equal $312/hr.
All BS aside after a furlough at a "real" airline in the 80's I started looking at where to work from an accountant's viewpoint instead of a pilot's. It has served me faily well. While never say never is valid, if you actually look at the financials nothing even comes close to FDX and UPS. But, on the occasional commercial (in first always for us in ANC) I'll be happy to point out where the nearest bathroom is so I can fell like a Marvin Mainliner.
08-12-2007, 10:29 AM
#49
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What 320Driver says is true.
Furthermore, end of contract rates here at UPS are the following, and they're much higher than most people realize.
$261.67/hour top captain pay ($255,128/year at guarantee)
$185.51/hour top first officer pay ($180,872/year at guarantee)
As for the rest of the contract... on balance it's quite good.
Furthermore, end of contract rates here at UPS are the following, and they're much higher than most people realize.
$261.67/hour top captain pay ($255,128/year at guarantee)
$185.51/hour top first officer pay ($180,872/year at guarantee)
As for the rest of the contract... on balance it's quite good.
08-12-2007, 10:50 AM
#50
Ben Salley
Joined APC: Feb 2006
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Originally Posted by Priority 3
What 320Driver says is true.
Furthermore, end of contract rates here at UPS are the following, and they're much higher than most people realize.
$261.67/hour top captain pay ($255,128/year at guarantee)
$185.51/hour top first officer pay ($180,872/year at guarantee)
As for the rest of the contract... on balance it's quite good.
Furthermore, end of contract rates here at UPS are the following, and they're much higher than most people realize.
$261.67/hour top captain pay ($255,128/year at guarantee)
$185.51/hour top first officer pay ($180,872/year at guarantee)
As for the rest of the contract... on balance it's quite good.
