View Poll Results: Which LCC would you Avoid?
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Which LCC to avoid
09-14-2007 | 02:14 AM
#11
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From: In the Purple Haze
Even SWA? I mean, they're cheap but they pay very well and treat their employees like... *gasp* human beings! From everything I have seen, heard, and experienced SWA treats their pilots and other employees way better than the legacies. I might even go so far as to say better than pre-9/11 legacies.
P.S - Skybus is the worst in my eyes, but something about Virgin makes me uneasy, being a foreign airline that found a loophole in our laws and all.
P.S - Skybus is the worst in my eyes, but something about Virgin makes me uneasy, being a foreign airline that found a loophole in our laws and all.
Yes, all LCC's are responsible for the pay and our "status" being diminished to nothing more than a bus driver. No offense Airbus guys....
Whale
09-14-2007 | 04:52 AM
#12
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From: Pilot
pilotss has the right answer. Pilots look at all the obvious surface issues of flying for a certain airline but often foget to check the balance sheet.
Check the debt/equity ratio that an airline has and consider long term job security while you are doing that. I recall a couple of guys leaving SWA in 2000 and 2001 for UAL and then after 9-11 calling SWA in near tears asking if they could come back. (They were told they could re-apply). SWA's debt/equity ratio is below 30% while many other airlines, INCLUDING those who recently went thru bankruptcy are over levereged with debt/equity ratios of over 100%.
Check the debt/equity ratio that an airline has and consider long term job security while you are doing that. I recall a couple of guys leaving SWA in 2000 and 2001 for UAL and then after 9-11 calling SWA in near tears asking if they could come back. (They were told they could re-apply). SWA's debt/equity ratio is below 30% while many other airlines, INCLUDING those who recently went thru bankruptcy are over levereged with debt/equity ratios of over 100%.
.....this should be interesting
09-14-2007 | 02:45 PM
#14
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To me it is Skybus, Air Tran and Virgin. There is nothing to say about Skybus. The pay, uniforms and policies are a joke just like the airline. What airlines charges for a soda? Next it is a tie between Air Tran and Virgin. Virgin upgrade is based on how much butt kissing you do. Air Tran is Valujet...enough said. I know 2 people personally that were hired there and they busted almost every checkride at the regional level.
09-14-2007 | 03:07 PM
#15
On Reserve
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 157
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From: Retired
how about airtran? we just had a weird deal with a few "t/a"s, recalled the prez and v.p. of the union, had a guy fired recently for writing up too many mx issues, and the lead guy in the recall effort and t/a rebuttal got fired...i think this is one place that should be avoided...
09-14-2007 | 04:02 PM
#17
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
So many choices, but I only get to pick one?
Skybus it is then...the whole thing about paying flight attendants by commission put them over the top.
VA would be #2...as an American, I prefer to get raped by our own red-blooded American unscrupulous scumbag managers. No need to import foreign unscrupulous scumbag managers.
Skybus it is then...the whole thing about paying flight attendants by commission put them over the top.
VA would be #2...as an American, I prefer to get raped by our own red-blooded American unscrupulous scumbag managers. No need to import foreign unscrupulous scumbag managers.
09-15-2007 | 06:40 AM
#18
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 6,214
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From: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
Yes, all LCC's are responsible for the pay and our "status" being diminished to nothing more than a bus driver. No offense Airbus guys....
09-15-2007 | 08:55 AM
#20
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Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 294
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From: rear GV
To me it is Skybus, Air Tran and Virgin. There is nothing to say about Skybus. The pay, uniforms and policies are a joke just like the airline. What airlines charges for a soda? Next it is a tie between Air Tran and Virgin. Virgin upgrade is based on how much butt kissing you do. Air Tran is Valujet...enough said. I know 2 people personally that were hired there and they busted almost every checkride at the regional level.
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