View Poll Results: Which LCC would you Avoid?
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Which LCC to avoid
09-15-2007, 10:36 PM
#21
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LCC's
SkyBus really doesn't belong in this poll since they are a self described Ultra Low Cost Carrier and not a mere LCC.
They are the first of the next generation of companies that will drag our industry to new lows. In 15 years pilots will have to provide for their own hotel rooms.
Skyhigh
They are the first of the next generation of companies that will drag our industry to new lows. In 15 years pilots will have to provide for their own hotel rooms.
Skyhigh
09-15-2007, 10:39 PM
#22
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At this point
At this point in the evolution of the airline industry it might be prudent to choose one of the worst LCC's since they most likely will be around in 20 years.
Skybus
Allegiant
City Airlines
SkyHigh
Skybus
Allegiant
City Airlines
SkyHigh
09-16-2007, 05:26 AM
#23
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Originally Posted by SkyHigh
At this point in the evolution of the airline industry it might be prudent to choose one of the worst LCC's since they most likely will be around in 20 years.
Skybus
Allegiant
City Airlines
SkyHigh
Skybus
Allegiant
City Airlines
SkyHigh
I've never heard of City. My vote is still out on Skybus. VA I'm not so worried about, if Carty does the same fine job he did at AA, they'll be gone as well. After all there are more out of business airlines that used cheap labor than otherwise.
09-16-2007, 06:31 AM
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Start up
Originally Posted by Oldfreightdawg
And they will have pilotless airplanes too...just kidding
I've never heard of City. My vote is still out on Skybus. VA I'm not so worried about, if Carty does the same fine job he did at AA, they'll be gone as well. After all there are more out of business airlines that used cheap labor than otherwise.
I've never heard of City. My vote is still out on Skybus. VA I'm not so worried about, if Carty does the same fine job he did at AA, they'll be gone as well. After all there are more out of business airlines that used cheap labor than otherwise.
It use to be that eventually a union would come on the property and would begin to bump the wages up. Those days are long gone. The way to win now is is start out as cheap and to remain as such.
City Airlines is a fictional company referred to on the comedy central show South Park. It is operated by a single person who appears to own a Cessna 172.
SkyHigh
09-16-2007, 07:40 AM
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I guess I can hold my chin a little higher being Spirit is also an ULCC
and only has 2 votes as of this posting; tied with SWA
On a side note (not bragging): They payed for the hotel and van ride for the interview, pay at training w/ per diem (although it was not much) payed for my type on the "bus", insurance after 90 days, 150% open time, 200% JA,...... Some good and some bad..... just like about every place now a days
and only has 2 votes as of this posting; tied with SWAOn a side note (not bragging): They payed for the hotel and van ride for the interview, pay at training w/ per diem (although it was not much) payed for my type on the "bus", insurance after 90 days, 150% open time, 200% JA,...... Some good and some bad..... just like about every place now a days
09-16-2007, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Breckster
I guess I can hold my chin a little higher being Spirit is also an ULCC and only has 2 votes as of this posting; tied with SWA
On a side note (not bragging): They payed for the hotel and van ride for the interview, pay at training w/ per diem (although it was not much) payed for my type on the "bus", insurance after 90 days, 150% open time, 200% JA,...... Some good and some bad..... just like about every place now a days
and only has 2 votes as of this posting; tied with SWAOn a side note (not bragging): They payed for the hotel and van ride for the interview, pay at training w/ per diem (although it was not much) payed for my type on the "bus", insurance after 90 days, 150% open time, 200% JA,...... Some good and some bad..... just like about every place now a days
09-21-2007, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by captjns
Wrong!!! its every pilot from every airline, be it union or non-union, who rolled over and played dead by accepting lower pay, reduced benefits and reduction in QOL. Thats who is responsible for your status being diminished. I don't think that the officers and directors of Skybus, Virgin America, nor Airtran collectively conspired on a Monday morning and to influence the managment of AA, UAL, DAL or NWA to get them in line on salary and benefit issues. Afterall, I haven't seen salaries increased, nor retirement benefits restored for the legacy boys.
I do not agree with the second part. If you could be a fly on the wall for a few days here:
http://www.aircon.org/what_is_aircon/index.htm
http://www.aircon.org/members/index.htm
I know you would do a 180.
09-21-2007, 10:41 PM
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Should SWA even be in the poll? They have good workrules, great equipment, progressive thinking, a good company culture, great pay, safe, and continuously profitable because of all of the above and not at the expense of their employees.
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