Traitors in ALPA
09-24-2007 | 01:36 PM
#21
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I consider Traitors of ALPA being the line pilots who don't vote - don't volunteer - but who DO complain and try to recall volunteers of their Union trying to better their life on their behalf.
Nobody has the "Big Picture" in mind I have observed over the past couple of years.
Nobody has the "Big Picture" in mind I have observed over the past couple of years.
09-24-2007 | 05:33 PM
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I'm disappointed in ALPA National leadership because they didn't do anything to protect the career progression of younger pilots regarding this change. I shouldn't be surprised, however, that their proposal provided a windfall to older pilots who not only will get another 5 years at the top of their earning potential but benefited from advancement of seniority due to Age 60 retirements for their entire career.
A better solution would have been to require the PIC of all 121 operations to be under the age of 60. Older pilots who wanted or needed to work would get another 5 years, likely at the top of FO pay and seniority, while not impinging on the career progression of younger pilots below them.
That would have been the best possible compromise to both positions...too bad it never appeared to have been considered.
A better solution would have been to require the PIC of all 121 operations to be under the age of 60. Older pilots who wanted or needed to work would get another 5 years, likely at the top of FO pay and seniority, while not impinging on the career progression of younger pilots below them.
That would have been the best possible compromise to both positions...too bad it never appeared to have been considered.
09-24-2007 | 05:44 PM
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I have always believed you put up or give up...my 2c....
09-24-2007 | 06:15 PM
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From: Capt B747-400
Al Aska
...I thought BA just raised its retirement to 55 from 60???...
Did you mean from 55 to 60?
In fact the mandatory retirement age for all BA pilots is now 65, as a result of recent European legislation.
Regards
Bellerophon
...I thought BA just raised its retirement to 55 from 60???...
Did you mean from 55 to 60?
In fact the mandatory retirement age for all BA pilots is now 65, as a result of recent European legislation.
Regards
Bellerophon
09-24-2007 | 06:24 PM
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From: 737 CA
I'm not pro or con ALPA. I am ALPA. ALPA is just a union. They do not make laws in the US, the legislative branch does. ALPA might try and affect law/rule changes. The retirement age concerns all pilots, but that doesn't mean we can do anything to change it or keep it the same. I'm not saying we shouldn't try, I'm saying the FAA/federal government does what they want. I've written my congressmen and they said they support the change because of age discrimination. They make the laws, we only vote them in (and out!).
09-25-2007 | 06:53 AM
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From: 737
09-25-2007 | 10:05 AM
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US Federal (FAA and DoD) Air Traffic Controllers can work until age 56, with a few exceptions:
1. Hired before (I think) 1974, no age limit
2. Reaching age 56 without 20 years of credible service, may continue working past 56, however they must retire on the month that they reach 20 years.
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