Traitors in ALPA
09-22-2007 | 10:22 PM
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Traitors in ALPA
I have watched in disbelief over the last 8 months as the leadership at ALPA especially that treacherous piece of sh** Prader has completely ignored the wishes of the group he was elected to represent. His reasoning was this is going to change anyway so why fight it, I talked to an lec chair from United recently and he told me that Prader has been lobbying for it on the sly and behind the memberships back since he took control of the office.
I don't know what is wrong with you guys, but he needs and deserves to be FIRED. This guy is a traitor and completely lacks integrity and you guys know this. Do something about it.
Nightrider
I don't know what is wrong with you guys, but he needs and deserves to be FIRED. This guy is a traitor and completely lacks integrity and you guys know this. Do something about it.
Nightrider
09-22-2007 | 10:51 PM
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To understand what ALPA says and how they actually operate, read this link below.
http://www.airlinesafety.com/Unions/CockpitPolitics.htm
http://www.airlinesafety.com/Unions/CockpitPolitics.htm
09-22-2007 | 11:09 PM
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United Airlines pilots scab in Australia
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http://www.awaforums.com/scabs/ual_pilots_as_scabs.htm
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http://www.awaforums.com/scabs/ual_pilots_as_scabs.htm
09-23-2007 | 12:02 AM
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United Airlines pilots scab in Australia
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http://www.awaforums.com/scabs/ual_pilots_as_scabs.htm
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http://www.awaforums.com/scabs/ual_pilots_as_scabs.htm
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09-23-2007 | 02:08 AM
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I have watched in disbelief over the last 8 months as the leadership at ALPA especially that treacherous piece of sh** Prader has completely ignored the wishes of the group he was elected to represent. His reasoning was this is going to change anyway so why fight it, I talked to an lec chair from united recently and he told me that Prader has been lobbying for it on the sly and behind the memberships back since he took control of the office.
I don't know what is wrong with you guys, but he needs and deserves to be FIRED. This guy is a traitor and completely lacks integrity and you guys know this. Do something about it.
Nightrider
I don't know what is wrong with you guys, but he needs and deserves to be FIRED. This guy is a traitor and completely lacks integrity and you guys know this. Do something about it.
Nightrider
09-23-2007 | 06:45 AM
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United Airlines pilots scab in Australia
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http://www.awaforums.com/scabs/ual_pilots_as_scabs.htm
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http://www.awaforums.com/scabs/ual_pilots_as_scabs.htm
So what am I missing something? They quit their jobs and didn't go on strike. There was no official job action, so how can they be scabs?
09-23-2007 | 07:20 AM
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Wishes are nice but they must have some basis in reality for them to come true. Age 60 was/is going to change, period. Our government can't allow some 64 year old Chinese guy to pilot his 747 into LAX on one hand, and then tell U.S. pilots that they can't fly beyond 60 for safety reasons. Doesn't it give you a headache beating your skull against a brick wall? If you want to complain about something, do so about the inadequate and misleading communications that came out of ALPA during this process.
Politics at its worst.
09-23-2007 | 08:12 AM
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09-23-2007 | 08:17 AM
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". Since these were voluntary resignations, and by definition not a strike since literally no strike had been called, there was no longer any labor protections afforded to the union or its members as should be obvious. Thus, there was no longer any reason to retain potential positions for these pilots since they had simply quit."
So what am I missing something? They quit their jobs and didn't go on strike. There was no official job action, so how can they be scabs?
So what am I missing something? They quit their jobs and didn't go on strike. There was no official job action, so how can they be scabs?
At the time of the AFAP Strike in 1989, Ansett Worldwide Holdings owned a majority stake in America West. America West sent it's 737 pilots down to Australia to Scab Ansett routes. And since AFAP was a member organization of IFALPA, the higher-ups at ALPA recognized the America West scabs as ALPA scabs.
09-23-2007 | 09:30 AM
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Prater threw all of us under the bus for his own personal gain, and regardless of whether it changes he needs to be held accountable for his actions and living with the shame of being recalled would be perfect.
Drop the ansett stuff you guys are taking away from the important issue here. If I were still an alpa member I would do all I could to recall Prader.
What is he going to do next, I see by his statement that he is now also accepting the UAV commercial language in hr.2881. ALPA should be fighting this tooth and nail.
Get rid of this POS before he sells us all out again.
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Drop the ansett stuff you guys are taking away from the important issue here. If I were still an alpa member I would do all I could to recall Prader.
What is he going to do next, I see by his statement that he is now also accepting the UAV commercial language in hr.2881. ALPA should be fighting this tooth and nail.
Get rid of this POS before he sells us all out again.
Nightrider
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