View Poll Results: would you deny the j/s?
Yes I would deny a J/S to a non-scab list pilot.
43
18.53%
No, I would only deny an official scab list pilot.
189
81.47%
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Denying Jump seat.. a poll.
10-22-2007 | 09:30 PM
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Maybe that individual is happy in their job.
Denying someone a ride just because they work for a company you don't agree with is wrong. Another post in this thread mentions everyone working as a team and helping each other out. Denying someone a ride for reasons stated above is not being a team or helping a fellow pilot. It seems that you can be a member of the team, so long as you support what we want and share our beliefs.
When I move to the left seat, I will not deny a fellow pilot a ride, regardless of who they are employed by. It's all about taking care of each other. I may not agree with their politics, but I will extend my hospitalities.
Denying someone a ride just because they work for a company you don't agree with is wrong. Another post in this thread mentions everyone working as a team and helping each other out. Denying someone a ride for reasons stated above is not being a team or helping a fellow pilot. It seems that you can be a member of the team, so long as you support what we want and share our beliefs.
When I move to the left seat, I will not deny a fellow pilot a ride, regardless of who they are employed by. It's all about taking care of each other. I may not agree with their politics, but I will extend my hospitalities.
10-24-2007 | 09:15 PM
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Interesting (and somewhat civil) discussion... I'm still a bit amazed that 1 in 5 captains would turn away a non-scab just because of where they work.. Amazed frankly..
10-25-2007 | 01:07 PM
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So let me get this straight. Is some one who goes to work at gojets now a scab? If they go to work for gojets in 5 years will they be a scab then? When does that end? It may be owned by the same people who brought us TSA but doesnt it at some point become its own airline.
When can I expect knife fights in the lounges between ALPA members and gojeters?
When can I expect knife fights in the lounges between ALPA members and gojeters?
10-25-2007 | 01:26 PM
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10-25-2007 | 03:30 PM
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So let me get this straight. Is some one who goes to work at gojets now a scab? If they go to work for gojets in 5 years will they be a scab then? When does that end? It may be owned by the same people who brought us TSA but doesnt it at some point become its own airline.
When can I expect knife fights in the lounges between ALPA members and gojeters?
When can I expect knife fights in the lounges between ALPA members and gojeters?
10-30-2007 | 03:54 PM
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Here's a question for you guys that say you will deny jumpseats to GoJets. If you were catching a flight somewhere, and found out that the flight you were getting on was operated by gojet, would you jumpseat it?
10-30-2007 | 09:08 PM
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ive needed a ride home before and GJ was flying it, I found an alternative method of getting home. i absolutely refuse to ride on them. im not in the position to have the authority to say whether or not a scab goes with us. but if i did, they wouldn't, whether or not ALPA views them as scabs, i.e. GJ
i dont really understand why people don't get the thought process behind denying these pilots. we all want better pay, work rules, and overall QOL, and we take the necessary actions to do so as a group. when certain people turn on the group, they are hurting the entire industry, and we are supposed to help these people by extending them a privilege like j/s'ing? i dont think so!
i dont really understand why people don't get the thought process behind denying these pilots. we all want better pay, work rules, and overall QOL, and we take the necessary actions to do so as a group. when certain people turn on the group, they are hurting the entire industry, and we are supposed to help these people by extending them a privilege like j/s'ing? i dont think so!
10-30-2007 | 09:17 PM
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Well, this might be different, but I was jumpseating AFTER being diverted to another base on my last leg. Company would not positive space me home from there, only to my base so I jumpseated from there home ( this was CAL ). The flight was WIDE open ( 35 PAX ) on a 73 with 4 in 1st class. The FA put me in 1st and as we were pushing back, 2 FA'scame to me and said the CA said " if he wants to sit in 1st class, he can pay for it!! " come to find out, hes a scab, NO SCABS in my jumps seat if I have anything to say about it!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry that happened. Total prick. I have told the CPO twice now that once the door closes it is my airplane and any jumpseaters WILL be in First Class.
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